Floaters...A different approach to the Scrog method. One with the same results but easier and less time.

You can flower a plant with a Floater anytime you wanna start. Its that easy.

I think its about time to post up some solid information on a method ive been using. Its a method that can control any height issue you may have along with a increase in bud production. Who's not interested in that? Lol


Scrogs.....the old guard.

Lets chat about this a minute. Most folks who have poked around grow sites have run into a method called Scrogging. Its simply wire or netting secured by a frame and used to support and spread the plant into a position where the entire canopy is receiving direct light on all the buds.


I tell ya this is an excellent way to grow. I learned how to grow using this technique and never looked back. It can be very productive in small areas. I mean think about it. All the light you can muster up indoors dialed in and slamming the entire carpet of buds you have formed below.

There are disadvantages to the scrog as well. It is a set grow. Which means the plants must stay where they are until harvest...locked in. This is fine until unforseen issues creep in like bugs or mold. Your ability to move the plant is way more difficult when things are all secured in.

PM or Powdery Mildew is the one to look for in confined grows like scrogs where air flow can get restricted and moisture can lay in there causing problems.

Multi strain grows are difficult under a solo screen. You can not just pull a ripened plant easily and leave the other. Its also difficult to have plants at different stages of growth.

Thats enough about the awesome method of scrogging. Something all growers should try at least once. Things evolve and change. Lets talk about a Floater.



Wtf is a Floater Scrog?

One day I was high as fuck sitting in front of a large 4x4 scrog and something dawned on me. Ya dont need a frame on a scrog and you dont need to secure it down either. That screen will stay in place.

Then a day later i stumbl into a members thread (trojangrower)and there it was. A 18x18 wire rack laying on top of a plant. Of course i asked about it right away..lol I took that visual and ran with it. It wasn't long and I had figured out good sizes and multiple uses for the floater. Probably the most simple and easy tool to use for a scrog type grow.

So, what is a Floater and what can it do?

In simple terms its wire fencing cut to size. The floater rides inside your canopy and can spread your plant out just like a scrog only everything is mobile. Each plant has its own scrog screen and nothing is secured down.


Its not fancy and no hardware is needed. Some wire cutters is all ya need.
I use dog fencing wire. It doesn't matter what wire it is just as long as it has at least 2"x3" spacing. To me thats the minimal size. I've used 2"x2" and its difficult to get grown bud through that small 2x2 at harvest. Fencing like chicken wire is not suggested. To flimsy and it will cut into stem.

I use the 24"x30' roll which can make many different sized floaters. Typical sizes I use are 12x12, 18x18, 20x21,or larger floaters can be combined to make slightly wider floaters.

So how to use a Floater....

Theres a few approaches you can take here. I use early training to form a nice solid base for the floater to ride. I do this with bending and crushing of stems if needed. At 8" or so a plants main is crushed and bent 90°. All branching is pegged down and outward from the main stem. After a week of growth it forms a nice base to place a small floater. Release all tie downs and let the floater do the work now.

As the plant grows you simply pull growth under and outward as you would a scrog. In a short period the plant will outgrow the 12x12 screen.

You simply grab the screen and shake it as you pull up. The 12x12 will pop right off. Replace it with a 18x18 or 21x20. This is a real good size. It gives the plant a 2x2 space to fill up of her own. No competing plants.

Once you decide its time to flower you simply flip the timer and continue on pulling growth under and outward. No waiting for it to fill the screen. Its already full..lol. The floater will ride with and grow with the canopy supporting it along the way and keeping it spread out for the lamps and most important..mobile

Another approach to flowering with floaters is flowering right away. Let's say ya have a plant thats getting big. You'd thought of doing a scrog but you think its to late now...well its not.

Its very easy to mount a large screen onto a nice vegged plant. Once mounted i use either a long spike or wire tied around a lower branch to hold the screen in place with a little downward pressure.The plant will grasp the screen and no hold downs are needed after that. FLIP TO FLOWER. Pull branches under for 12-14 days and then just let grow. Many times this will give you 8-12" colas all over the screen.
I do not strip the circled area just yet. I want to coax all of the bud sites I can from the entire plant. Ill sort through the growth later to thin things out. Usually after they have started into flower.

You can see all the taller growth is on the perimeter of the floater while smaller growth from the lowers covers the center.

For a carpet of buds in the screen train things under until day 21 then stop.

I do not weave branching. Its pulled under and guided where I want it to go. Many times you'll find branching to be very stiff and rigid. Be fearless and crush the stem a little. The stem will loosen up and go where ya want it to go. I keep small pieces of wire close for any support. Within a few days the wire will no be needed.

Leaf removal is super important. I cover that issue down below in warnings.

Why use a Floater?

When I grow a plant I want to get the most out of it as I can. Im spending money and time on this hobby so I want every oz I can squeeze from these ladies.

Floaters help me manage a plant and get all of the plant i can exposed to light. The canopy is where everything good happens. This method allows the whole plant the opportunity to contribute to the grow.

Early training keeps a plant low and wide. Doing this your giving that lower part of the plant which is often disregarded the opportunity to contribute.


This early training also builds strong secondary branching which offers up many larger colas. To me its important to not only build that base for the floater but also ensure maximum branching.


Warnings for Scrogs....

Theres not much risk in scrogging or using floaters. The only real enemy is congested leaf and plant matter. In a screen things can get messy so something has to go. Leaf and small branching that will not contribute to the canopy need to be removed.

I cant express how important leaf removal is with this method. Growing indoors is not natural. Add this method to the mix and I assure you this is not natural at all..lol. So something has to go...leaf can cause clogs in a lot of ways and problems occur when moisture is involved.

This isnt for looks. Its to keep airflow going in a confined area. You should be able to see some medium through the canopy of any scrog or floater.

There ya have it. I tried to throw what I have learned so far doing this method. I assure you its much easier than a normal scrog and just as rewarding.