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Im getting ready to start some seeds in tiny rockwool cubes. Then im tossing those into a promix like mix in solos! Wish me luck! Hahaha
Some learning there. Figuring out how the rockwool and soil interacts. After that I think its going to be a solid strategy. Good luck!!!
 
Im a believer. I hit them with some recharge for all the beneficials too. Just wanted to give that tap and root system an early boost.

Yes I like to float my seeds in ro water until they have a tap or at least 36hrs. Rockwool is alkaline at 7-8 so its important to soak the rockwool in PHed water for a while. I usually give them a few hours minimum and I shake the water out of them at least 1 time during the middle of the soak. Dont squeeze the water out of them it permanently compresses the fibers and restricts oxygen exchange.
Same to me used it in the past but the last two runs with synthetic I didn't.
Probably won't in the future, because it's wasting money with synt I guess.
Only got high concentrated fulvic, root booster and liquid guano(K2) left I could use to give em an organic start which could run good with mycor.

Which fertilizer do you use to start them in rock? Or y just add water and feed them in seedling stage?
 
Dont follow my example of rockwool in soil. Ive been fighting with these kids about water since putting them in the soil. The mbap was completely limp on the ground 2 days ago. Overall the whole batch just arent off to the start I expected.

I left the top of the cubes exposed to air thinking it would help with oxygen. Turns out its wicking the moisture away from the seedlings and allowing it to evaporate. So make sure to fully bury the cubes when putting them in soil
Im Plannung to go from rock wool to Coco coir, maybe a little better¿
Want em covered with clays to not let some algae on it and to keep the moisture in it(don't like to weight em daily)

Good to know, thought like that as well.
 
Same to me used it in the past but the last two runs with synthetic I didn't.
Probably won't in the future, because it's wasting money with synt I guess.
Only got high concentrated fulvic, root booster and liquid guano(K2) left I could use to give em an organic start which could run good with mycor.

Which fertilizer do you use to start them in rock? Or y just add water and feed them in seedling stage?
It's not a complete waste and early in the life cycle it would still be beneficial. It becomes a waste when you're feeding so much that the plant doesn't need the help from the myco. They kinda push it to the side because they can easily get what they want from the salts. And phosphorus is bad for it. Don't go dumping it in every batch of nutes but definitely still useful.

First few days water only. The last couple days I've been giving them some Neptune fish and seaweed. Just feeding until they get their roots established in the soil
 
Im Plannung to go from rock wool to Coco coir, maybe a little better¿
Want em covered with clays to not let some algae on it and to keep the moisture in it(don't like to weight em daily)

Good to know, thought like that as well.
Never grown in coco but I know a little about it. I think it will be much better than soil. Moisture retention is closer between coco and rockwool than soil.
 
Didnt take too long for her to fill out again. Starting to get some frost too.
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The cookies is getting active. Shes been killing the res. Ive done 2 full changes in the last 72hrs. The 24hrs after the change she crushes the res. Yesterday I drained and flushed the res. I mixed 5gal at 2.1ec and 5.9ph. Tonight the res is down maybe 2gal somewhere between 1-2. The ec is 1.5 and ph is 6.7. These are very similar to what she did to the previous fresh batch. These numbers tell me she is devouring the nutes and I need to increase the ec of my fresh mix.

Lights are maxed out. Plus the panels are 100w and theyre at 50%. I'll be turning them up to the next setting at 75% tomorrow morning so I can monitor the situation throughout the day. My meter is reading foot candels and converted down its 64.8 DLI from the top light. Tent is 75-77f and 55-65 rh%. Trying my best to control the environment without any equipment really. Relying on the lung room and 2 clip fans.
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The cookies is getting active. Shes been killing the res. Ive done 2 full changes in the last 72hrs. The 24hrs after the change she crushes the res. Yesterday I drained and flushed the res. I mixed 5gal at 2.1ec and 5.9ph. Tonight the res is down maybe 2gal somewhere between 1-2. The ec is 1.5 and ph is 6.7. These are very similar to what she did to the previous fresh batch. These numbers tell me she is devouring the nutes and I need to increase the ec of my fresh mix.

Lights are maxed out. Plus the panels are 100w and theyre at 50%. I'll be turning them up to the next setting at 75% tomorrow morning so I can monitor the situation throughout the day. My meter is reading foot candels and converted down its 64.8 DLI from the top light. Tent is 75-77f and 55-65 rh%. Trying my best to control the environment without any equipment really. Relying on the lung room and 2 clip fans.
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Yo gas, that plant is crushing it bro! Any thoughts or conclusions yet on the constant fertigation?
 
Yo gas, that plant is crushing it bro! Any thoughts or conclusions yet on the constant fertigation?
I think its good for "high performance" rockwool grows. The grower needs to know what theyre doing and be attentive enough to stay on top of shit. Its definitely a winner but hard to say how big of a star player it is based on this one run. I learned a lot from my previous 420scrog grows and have implemented those changes with the cookies. I have plans to play with it more down the road. I cant start another grow until this fall so it will have to wait. The hybrid rockwool/dwc effect it can create is pretty amazing and i hate it at the same time. Very much appreciate the tip my guy!!! 🫡🥰🤘👊🙏🙇‍♂️
 
The 5x5 has been a disappointment for me but I'm rolling with it. The goal of this run was to test some variety so I'll still be able to do that.

Lost the gold glue.

The mbap(center) got fried day 1 and hasn't recovered. Been nursing her along and she is finally growing her next set of leaves. I would be happy with half oz from her. Just to get a taste test on mbap.

The strawberry soda(bottom left) also got fried and is in worse shape than the mbap. I've been nursing her a long too and she hasn't completely died yet. I'll keep caring for her until she makes it or kicks the bucket.

Strawberry pie(bottom right) definitely stalled and is probably stunted but has started to grow the last few days.

The others are doing okay but I feel like they stalled when putting the rockwool into the soil.

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Ive wanted to switch nute lines for a while so I've been reading up on what's available out there. I found the heavy 16 line and on paper it looks like the best fit for my goals. Reviews are also solid. So instead of dry salts I picked up the heavy line yesterday.


Did the res flush and added the first batch of heavy 16 plus microbial mass at 2.7 EC and it came out to 5.6 pH. It's recommended not to adjust pH with this line so I left it. This morning about 7.5hrs later and EC is 1.9 and pH is 6.5. No signs of stress from the change and those res numbers say she's taking the nute swap well. Next move is to mix 1-2gal of concentrated nutes to bring the EC back up and that will also bring the pH down.

Root check up while I had it drained.
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More trichomes. Maybe it’s a timing coincidence or I’m imagining it but since switching to the new nutes there has been a noticeable increase in coverage. Shes still 90% white pistils and hasn’t really started swelling.
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[Gets on knees and bows profusely]"...OMMMMMM; HATS OFF TO THE MASTER! OMMMMMMMM!...."

That's way better than anything I can do bro! Keep it up! 👍🤩
 

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More trichomes. Maybe it’s a timing coincidence or I’m imagining it but since switching to the new nutes there has been a noticeable increase in coverage. Shes still 90% white pistils and hasn’t really started swelling.
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Killin it Gas! 🤩
 
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