Guess which one is machine trimmed?

amstercal said:

I added a poll. I wasn't going to because I love seeing everyone's responses. Seamaiden's is priceless. I LOVE the mental image of her chucking weed into the fire. I wonder if she would have chucked the same piece if it had been hand trimmed? Was it always hemp or just from the trimming?

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You ever hear of the "grower's cut?" I keep my "grower's cut" stuff and smoke it quite happily. It's very good weed. Schwag, though, is schwag, no matter how it's trimmed. :) This stuff tasted worse than dirt and made me feel as though I were going to have an asthma attack and I don't have asthma. I realized at that moment, as I'm wheezing and wondering, "What the fuck? This has never happened to me before," that THIS is why people grow their own weed. And at that moment I got up and chucked everything he'd left with me into the fireplace.

I still totally get why people will use machines to trim, but I don't get why they then get their panties in a bunch when someone talks about how it looks. Just own it already. It is what it is, you had more weed than you could trim in the time you had and that's what was done with it and it shows. If I break out my loupe and I see a field of headless stalks, I know that bud's been handled roughly at the very least.

And, who knows, there may come a day when I'm growing so much weed I can't hope to get it trimmed by my lonesome and a machine may be my only answer. Machines sure don't care what music is playing, do they?

amstercal said:

This is a totally high thought, but hopefully Seamaiden will get a kick out of it. She has inspired the next Agribusiness, the Toker B&B. Normally I loathe B&Bs but my mental image of Sea's bud sweetened fires ran amok. So from other stuff she's said, you arrive at the B&B greeted by home brewed beer. You are given a tour of the indoor farm, along with a sample bowl, of course. At sunset you have things made from Sea's garden in a picnic out among the outdoor farm. By evening, you smoke poorly rolled joints as you argue politics. If anyone tries to bug you on your cell, her young niece takes care of the problem by yelling obscenities at them for you. In the morning you wander the property, greeted by gnomes here and there in the morning dew.

So I'm not obsessed with you or anything, Seamaiden, you just say the funniest shit and it sticks. Search for Shrutte Farms on tripadvisor for a good example on how to set up your B&B. :-)

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I'm laughing my ass off... I'd say I'm getting a kick out of that. :giggle I'll go look up Shrutte Farms today. Not so much agribusiness as Cannabis Tourism. Yeah? Yeah. Canna-tourism, I'm feelin' it already.

Wanna know what's really funny? We used to have a log cabin up in Lake Tahoe that I rented out as a vacation rental. Not quite the B&B, but I had deals for my guests worked out at a ski resort and my favorite restaurants. :D

Seamaiden, you just kill me. I saw the post about husband and the kitchen too. You really just kill me. ROFL

Group Shots

Sorry, it took me so long to upload the group shots. Operator error. :-) So the current poll vote is 10 for A being machine trimmed and 7 for B. I think these pics will make it much more obvious.

A:


B:

I sure wouldnt give your trimmers a raise.

Both are more larfy than I like to see. If A is hand trimmed you seriously need to fire those trimmers.

So A is machine trimmed (14-9 on the poll right now).

Someone suggested that I'm "pro-trimmer." I wouldn't have said that, but I definitely don't think it's evil and I think it has it's place, so I guess in that sense I am pro.

If you grow a small amount for yourself and/or a few other patients, renting or buying a trimmer like the Twister would be a silly expense. Also, there are some things worth doing by hand with love.

If you have a larger grow, don't have another job and have the time to hand trim, then damn, quit being lazy and get to it.

If you have a larger grow and don't mind the expense or security issues that come along with paying people to trim, then that's probably what you should do.

If you're not in one of those categories, a Twister is a pretty good option. I definitely think knowing the machine better will increase both the quality and speed of the trim.

On a side note, another friend had a Trim Pro Rotor. I personally wouldn't use that. You have to remove so much leaf so as not to bend the blades, it just wouldn't be worth the trouble, IMO.

The Twister, will take any leaf and even trims the stems a bit. I didn't remove a single leaf from any of the pics I took, but I did trim one stem in one of the group shots because you can definitely spot the stems of a machine trimmed bud. It kinda shreds them like sugar cane or bamboo looks when you splinter them. Other than that, I randomly grabbed a bunch from each jar and didn't cherry pick at all for the pics. You can actually almost see the shredded stem in that first single shot of the machine trimmed one, if the pic weren't so grainy.

I wouldn't argue with Blaze that both are too leafy (I assume that you meant leafy, not larfy :-), although maybe that is a bad assumption). They definitely could have run the blade closer and tumbled a little longer. They preferred to go back if necessary after their first run mulched some smaller stuff because they didn't check the blade height. Rookie mistake. And the ones I trimmed, I wasn't trimming my own weed, so well... things done with love and all that. :-)

One thing I found really cool about the trimmer... 5 days after their harvest, everything was in jars, room clean, ready to go.

As Seamaiden said, trimmer weed looks a bit different. Own it. So far, no one who has seen it up close has suggested it would be a lower shelf or whatever, minus the pieces that need a little extra shave.

As far as quality, so far the trimmed weed looks brighter green. I used gloves and held by the stems when I trimmed. The smell last time I saw the jars (still curing) was definitely a little greener than the other hand trimmed, but it was also cut a few days later, and the hand trimmed jar wasn't that full, so it cured a little faster anyway. I'm hoping to see the jars again once cured to give you a little smoke report.

All in all, I can definitely see a difference between the two, but it's not a big one. So far it doesn't seem to have impacted the quality much, perhaps a slight amount, no more than a friend who's a little careless sometimes with his hands or scissors.

Thanks everyone for playing. Your comments are great.

Chops BUSTED! (Has spent the week trimming, is procrastinating getting started again this morning)

Did you know that you burn approximately 98 calories/hour trimming? So far that's been my best motivation. <looks embarrassed, hangs head>

98 per hour. Not bad. Definitely a good motivator for us ladies. Here's my thing: my dad used to have a really nasty commute. He'd often tell us how many hours of the day, weeks of his life he spent in traffic. I find myself doing that whenever I'm trimming.

Seamaiden said:

Chops BUSTED! (Has spent the week trimming, is procrastinating getting started again this morning)

Did you know that you burn approximately 98 calories/hour trimming? So far that's been my best motivation. <looks embarrassed, hangs head>

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Haha I love reading your post SeaMaiden always so entertaining and descriptive, Maybe try trimming while riding a stationary bicycle, can probably burn 198 calories / hour using that trimming technique. Just be careful don't ride too fast just keep it a nice slow pace and I'm sure you wont cut chunks out of the buds (Read somewhere before that you love it when that happens {eye roll and sarcastic sound to my voice})

I use a recumbent bicycle several times a week, and break that up with weight training. :)

You remembered!

CelticEBE said:

I find Seamaiden's presence here at the Farm priceless.

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Definitely! :)

i didnt see the second pics or the answer i picked B from the 1st set of pics. either way they both look good. i eman how much better will they look... if hand trimmed? i dotn think its gonna get u 50 dollars more an ounce.

From what I have seen one can usually get a good amount more for hand trimmed. Depends on your market and how picky your clientele is though - some people don't care much about the trim job. So far, at least for me, paying for a good hand done trim job has always ended up being more profitable than doing it with a machine. IMO the machines are not nearly as cost effective as many people claim, especially when all factors are considered.

So, my neighbor just dropped yet ANOTHER fucking machine-trimmed POS bud on me, Jillybean this time. Now, the quality of the bud itself can only be affected by the trim job insomuch as the trichs have been knocked off--this poor bud's exterior trichs look as though they've been raped off, on some places even the stalks have been knocked off and I can see damage to the leaves. If the stalks hadn't been taken off as well I might have suspected it had been kiefed.

But, that's not the worst of it. The worst of it was that it gave me a headache. Then I felt some nausea, but that passed. Unfortunately I couldn't get the funky flavor, almost beef stroganoff-y and... I don't know, something not good, out of my mouth until I smoked some Kush Cleaner.

This is the second time I've seen Subcool's gear come out with a really bad, funky flavor. I don't know how this Jillybean bud was grown, but I'm gonna give y'all three guesses as to what I did with that bud after the headache set in.

(Btw, when I'm trimming it's in front of the fireplace, warm, cozy, HANDY. Feel like I'm spending my life trimming, which is why I count the calories burned.)

I have a friend who loves red wines, but when we go wine tasting, she can't drink about 1/4 of them. She starts sneezing like mad. I'm sure she's allergic to something they use, but we have no idea what. Allergies aren't something that comes up for her at other times. Maybe there's an underlying connector to your neighbor's weed that isn't just bad growing or something, some chemical they use or something that you just can't tolerate.

Mmmm, Beef Stroganoff. Just what I want to taste coming out of my bowl. Jesus.

And sounds like you're going to start calculating your trim commute too. :-)

:giggle "Going to start?" I have been counting! Each and every trip up and down the stairs, don't you know it, girl?!