Smoking Oil in Public...Omicron

hammalamma said:

That's so funny, that' s my pic (top left) from icmag!View attachment 229920
But seriously I think most of these carts have a long way to go before considering them completley safe. There are wickless carts and ceramic carts too. There is also dripper style carto like a trippy sticks.

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Sorry but i have to correct you on a few things. The Trippy sticks are just atomizers, a cheaper version of the thermovape, because that is what the thermovape design is. A heating wire with just a ceramic disk on top, but better quality.

Second the cartridges are safe because all the parts inside are. Laser Welds, Ceramic, nichrome heating wire, and a silica rope that is used as a wick. Same material that firefighters have in their suites for fire resistance. Now, when FDA tried to regulate this technology, it wasnt about the technology that had issues because it did not, it was the liquid inside.


This is why these cartridges are one time use.

El Cerebro said:

does this tell you guys what you need to know? i don't smoke anymore, but think i would if this was only alternative..

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Ok so lets get this rolling, what you see in the image is the residue of oil that could not be vaporized. Remember this thing only reaches 400-450F. Not like a nail where it reaches over 800F that can also vaporize unwanted matter.


Let me think whats batter. Vaporizing only THC, CBD and the other cannabinoids that are proven to be bellow 500F or using a ti nail and also vaporize unwanted crap in the oil.


So going back to the pictures you posted all i see is residue in a sillica rope thats 100% safe to use.

On a side note maybe you should talk shit to your friends that just made a ecig oil vaporizer that uses the same technology that we help introduce.

And Yes I did start this industry, and have the proof. Before me people used glycerin mixes. After me 20 companies popped up swinging on my nuts.


Third part of this post is to respond to your comments about the hemp oil.

Now lets see. Hemp oil derived from the hemp plant, is not good for you? Do you have any toxicology report to back up your BS? Also you stated that i said its ok to use hemp oil yet Your forgetting the fact that i said " you can use it" but also i mentioned "that not sure what the medical risks are".

So please save yourself the time.


And if you want to see the future of what we bring.

Check out the Hercules cart, and the Universe adapter, you might learn something young one.



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I don't have any friends who make ecig oil vaporizers, they all just grow weed. The photos are some shit I found on the webs, as the ones I tore down went in trash.

You are full of shit, and your cartridges are nasty and unhealthy. The oil reserve sits in contact with plastic, solder, and pvc wire casing (which all emit toxins at relatively low heat). Silica seems like a fancy way to say fiberglass, both of which I don't care to inhale at any temperature (much less charred/burned).

There is no 'unwanted crap' in my concentrates, nor left behind on the screen if vaporized by convection. That wick in the photo is all shit-brown and burnt because it's B-U-R-N-T. As in oxidized, converted, toasted, ruined, harsh-to-smoke (cause that's what it's gonna do - smoke not vaporize). None of these should be called vaporizers, not even the thermovape oil models (although at least they have safe components and can be controlled to avoid excessive burning with some dedicated practice).

The thermovape convection models are a different story, cleaner method for sure, but not as practical for oil/wax without slight mod (screen stack as a platform for the concentrate). Most people are probably okay with the burning part, and admittedly it is minimal, but there's just no excuse for unsafe materials. Save that issue, the main problem I have is with continually heating up to a gram of your oil reserve, over and over, every time you hit the thing, mmm. Makes the oil get nasty like what you see in that photo, also pre-decarboxylating it (which makes it less stable and break down quicker). You guys ever smoke resin scraped from a pipe, good shit eh? Payin premium for that at the dispo are we?

Swing your nuts on this, bitch. I paid you $50 for carts which I then filled with winterized bho of known high quality. I even went so far as to buy several different resistance options to test. I read your detritus elsewhere but decided to give them a try anyway (wishful thinking, desperate, in pain). Just how young do you think i am? Are you like a fucking yoda or something?

Your shit is an insult to anyone trying to maintain their health. Get the fuck out of here with your spammy bullshit, swinging on your nuts, what the fuck..

THC Scientific said:

Sorry but i have to correct you on a few things. The Trippy sticks are just atomizers, a cheaper version of the thermovape, because that is what the thermovape design is. A heating wire with just a ceramic disk on top, but better quality.

Second the cartridges are safe because all the parts inside are. Laser Welds, Ceramic, nichrome heating wire, and a silica rope that is used as a wick. Same material that firefighters have in their suites for fire resistance. Now, when FDA tried to regulate this technology, it wasnt about the technology that had issues because it did not, it was the liquid inside.


This is why these cartridges are one time use.

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I am so not trying to argue, but how can you correct me on my opinion? Is my opinion wrong? I know plenty about ecigs and nothing I said was wrong, maybe you are trying to correct me about calling the dripper cart a cartomizer when it is really an aty or atomizer. Calm down cowboy.

El Cerebo>>check your attitude please<<<disrespect to my friend isn't gonna be tolerated<<no need for your insults to get your unhappy point across<<
my guess is your using Crap to load your carts??Winterized bho does not sound appealing<<>>what you put in is what you get out<<try loading your omicron with quality like this<<you will find your experience much more pleasant

hammalamma said:

I am so not trying to argue, but how can you correct me on my opinion? Is my opinion wrong? I know plenty about ecigs and nothing I said was wrong, maybe you are trying to correct me about calling the dripper cart a cartomizer when it is really an aty or atomizer. Calm down cowboy.

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I cant correct anyone's opinion but I can try to educate people about whats out in the world. Doing this since 2008 and almost all companies that pop up right now do all sorts of claims thats not true. When we came into main stream we let everyone know that the batteries we used was ecig batteries because that is the platform we wanted to use, since its already built we didnt want to re invent the wheel. Plus ecig batteries are just flashlights with different connectors.


Now going into whats out there all claim they came up with a design and no one can back it up. That is why you have companies copying our cartridges because we did something right.

Currently whats out there is all ecig carts, or atomizers. You have people from Gpen claiming that they came up with the ego-w, you have people from trippy sticks claiming they are the first no cartridge design but they dont seem to understand all they have is a atomizer.


With our Hercules carts all these wick issues and everything else is resolved. We are the ones who started this industry and will continue to push the limits.

GTD, attitude checked, no more disrespect to THC Scientific because he is your friend (and while my respect is usually earned differently, your point is well-taken).

I did not load crap in my Omicrons, winterized absolute just means one or two steps purer than you took that wax (which looks tasty by the way). People like Graywolf have all sorts of tech to go even further if needed, and my knowledge on those subjects comes mostly from studying his work and the relevant literature on herbal-extraction (unnecessary for me, but working on it for patients i help). No need to tout my extraction skills here, and surely you already see my uncompromising attitude about health and the meds i use.

I make zero-residue wax like yours all the time to use with my convection vaporizer, and have nothing against those who use it other ways. But waxes can behave oddly in the Omicron since it likes to climb the cartridge walls, paradoxically - away from the heat. This causes a sort of reflux situation where the repeatedly heated and liquefied oil/wax then degrades into the gunk seen in those photos. I've read elsewhere on the web where THC Scientific reccomends more-refined oils like PureGold because of this, with limonene added to make it more viscous and vaporize more readily in such a confined space.

Here's an analogous diagram from Tetra Labs (maker of PureGold):

I also have some respectful observations re the followup response by THC Scientific, but will see if I get banned first before taking time to type them out appropriately.