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This is interesting. There is a lot of info out there about other types of plants and DNA rearrangement, witch is my guess of what's going on with the duds. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1360138503003066 Assessment of microsporogenesis in tomato (Lycopersicon esculentum...

The thing is TMV doesn't just show up as blotches on leaves this is what people don't understand. It has so many different symptoms. It shows different on every strain I have done. Only two strains have showed the classic mosaic symptoms.

Make that the third page.

Hi, yes I already No problem brother I understand. We are all just trying to get real info. The results are on the second page of this thread I believe.

I really wish people would just listen to me about the TMV thing. It is a very real problem! Over the last three almost four years I have seen almost all the issues people have posted and talked about on this thread. The virus causes so many different symptoms that look like one thing or...

Sorry man, no ph issues here. It gets checked daily at 5.8. I have been dealing with TMV for a Long time and have lab results to show that's what it is. Been doing this for a lot of years and never had the twisting or other issues like now. The mosaic pattern leaves have only shown on a couple...

Well the smaller compared to the bigger are def dud plants as far as I'm concerned. Did you see the difference in thc between the first bud shot and the second? No smell to the small ones, and very slow weird growth. Also look at the difference in the hair color between the two, the small ones...

Here are some blue dream dud comparisons. Keep in mind this is the same strain same environment same veg time same everything. The first pic is just an over all size comparison the ones closest are the duds. The next two are the difference in thc production and the last two is the more...

I would be willing to bet that if you get your plants tested they would be positive. As the plant starts to grow, it grows faster than the virus can reproduce so people will think hey I fixed the problem. The virus is still there an will still affect yield and quality. Every strain reacts...

The lab is AL&L crop solutions out of Davis ca. It was a bit of a drive for me but well worth it. They took the time to explain the process and even showed me the proper technique for using the strips. Good people!

These are not pics of the duds, these are just some TMV symptoms. The more pics I see and stories I hear the more I am convinced the duds are from the TMV. I think there are countless people that have it and don't even realize it. For a while if you even brought up TMV in some forums people were...

Here is the results back on a few different strains. These are just the results from the test strips. On my first run after testing positive they did testing of the cells to confirm. I don't know if the test strips are 100% accurate but the cell testing is. The lab said they are looking in to...

Hey guys, I am the one that growerforlife was talking about. I have had many encounters with the dreaded dud plant. I have been dealing with weird random issues for over three years. Many different strains many different symptoms. After much frustration and loss I finally went to a lab for...

Hey guy