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Of course the 18s are not as good as the 29s. Just like the 1212s arent as good as the 1825s. I am aware the 18s are like the 1212s. My point is when asks you for the best bargain you conveniently leave out the Veros because you dont stock them. I know the efficiencies are getting better, but im...

I knew you were waiting on a chance to jump in and promote cobkits. You really dont know where the Vero 18s fall in that chart? How many threads on RIU have you participated in where that info has been readily available for some time now? Oh wait, you SAY you dont know because you dont stock the...

Thats cool man. Glad they are working for you. I was just trying to let you know you can get some really good deals on high efficient COBs that will grow fat colas and have even less heat. Prices have come down considerably the last few months. Good luck to you.

I would suggest a little research before you did that, but do what you want. Good luck Doc.

You can get three of these, and one of these. http://www.jameco.com/z/HLG-120H-C1400A-Mean-Well-150W-Single-Output-LED-Power-Supply_2189214.html For 150w of very efficient lighting. For what you pay for that one "cheap chinese COB" (minus heatsink of course) Almost 150 lumens per watt...

If it works for you more power to you. I was just fuckin with you. By the way, those are far from being cheap. Way overpriced.

NO! (Sternly points finger) :happy:

Where does the Vero 18 Gen 7's look like on that graph? Dont they beat almost everything except the CLU58 at lower currents for ten bucks a piece? Here are the links to the new Vero Gen 7's and the datasheets. http://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/p...ries/62986?mpart=BXRC-30E10K0-D-73&vendor=976...

Thats what I thought too man, but you know how Digikey is. They are actually more, lol. Just a buck or two, but still.

The new Vero 29, Vero 18, and Vero 13 Generation 7's are FINALLY in stock at Digikey guys! For us DIY'ers on a budget. Prices are cheaper than Cree. Lower than I thought they would be. Here are the links, and datasheets...

Im trying to get caught up here Satived, lol. Your garden looks amazing man! Some of the prettiest ladies I have seen online. Major props on your breeding and all around grow skills and knowledge. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience and your garden. It is greatly appreciated...