I have grown in MI in a commercial setting doing 14k over 6 plants. As I was building rooms that were 6 veg/6 flower because of the 12plants per locked location. I vegged on average 8 weeks in 13g RDWC, and moved to 35g RDWC and was pulling 3-5 lbs depending on the strain. But my 14k for the 6 plants were a mix of horizontal and verticals. If you want to talk shop about commercial growing hit me up.