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Would you join in on a 2024 ONE GALLON CHALLANGE

  • Yes

    Votes: 41 87.2%
  • No

    Votes: 5 10.6%
  • I’d like to discuss other pot size options for the challange

    Votes: 1 2.1%

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  • Poll closed Jul 3, 2024.

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The Frostette run did use fox farms 2nd half of flowering

She still got the Gaia green top dress, all my normal organic inputs, but then at week 3.5-4 I started adding in 3ml micro / 8ml bloom, opposite watering was flower fuel full strength, and then before going back to the bloom the 3rd in order was microbe brew or advanced nutrients organics OG tea

Whatever it did, it worked

I’d like to get away from the FF neuts though if I’m gunna add in the synthetics, i tested this theory with them because I have it all on hand from the past, most of it is over 2 years old but it’s kickin still, I was looking at advanced’s organics line, only issue is pricey to buy on Amazon and nobody local has it

What’s everyone’s preferred neuts?

Biggest thing with fox farms, whatever their suggested range is I cut either in half or 1/3

The micro says 5-10ml/gal I use 3ml
Bloom says 10-15ml/gal I use 8

Not worth over pushing it it’ll only stress em out, also my PH out the tap is 7.3, I don’t check my PH of my input water (just know my base ph as I checked water report) but with what I listed above when I did used to check would average about 6.4ph when mixed, I do keep a mechanical PH meter (the ones with 2 long metal prongs) in my soil at all times it sits at just about 6.7-6.8PH,

There’s a myth peat become more acidic as you run, but it appears in reality the acidifying properties of peat deteriorate weather quickly an d kkow the soil to become stable on its own without adjustment needed besides what was already planned to be watered, i believe its the same reason @GNick55 does the same as me and not check or adjust PH, feed the microbes and they’ll take care of you!

but here’s some results from some different ratios of peat mixed with soil and recording the the acidity of each along a timeline, mind you I run the 100% peat so the bottom blue line,


I believe letting the soil buffer itself is a major component of a healthy grow. When we start throwing crazy shit at em then have to adjust the PH to “make it fit the suggested range” were only hurting them more than helping if I would have followed FF suggested feeding like I used to my PH with that bloom / micro mixture would be in the 5.5 range then I’d be trying to “fix” it, imo if it has to be “fixed” then it’s not worth using

Just my opinion though so people can take it or Leave it but figured I’d explain my process with the synthetic change up mid flower, in addition to that it also dosent have any salt buildups early in flower that will affect them in late flower, by the time any real salts accumulation happens from the supplemental feeding and bloom boosters the plant is done and chopped
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I dig advanced. Its ph perfect line with a little big bud powder I. Flower will bring the colas you are looking for, but bar none, for the money, if you are going synthetic like my toxic ass, you know who I’m gonna says erretyme


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I dig advanced. Is oh perfect line with a little big bud powder I. Flower will bring the colas you are looking for, but bar none, for the money, if you are going synthetic like my toxic ass, you know who I’m gonna says erretyme


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I got some green leaf on the way in fact from their recent giveaway just got th e shipping details in my email a few days ago, still have my last bag from the last giveaway with the kelp meal, that was my next neut line to try, hit me up with some dosing ratios to start trying!
 
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Captspaulding said:
I dig advanced. Its ph perfect line with a little big bud powder I. Flower will bring the colas you are looking for, but bar none, for the money, if you are going synthetic like my toxic ass, you know who I’m gonna says erretyme


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Lol indoors I use the synganic approach. I keep some canna A and B around for the quick slap in the face to keep my girls in line
 
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Well I done fuckin did it this time! let the solo dry to much before up pot and the soil broke apart in my hands as I was getting ready to set it down into the bag, then of course I tried to “make things better” and it only fell apart more! I was able to hold support on the plant to hopefully not snap the tap root, but im not sure what how the other roots are doing. It’s my dumbass fault. Now i just hope it survives enough for clones! That was going to be my fire smoke!
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Try letting it grow and develop a root ball. I like to see them pop out the drainage holes. From there you can do the captain’s method where you roll the cup/ and or pot (up pot same concept only different) to loosen it up . On the solo cup I added my own touch where I pinch the button of the cup so to speak which pushes the plant up without yanking on it. You can also try my original method where you cut several slices around the solo cup and then peel it like you would from a banana. That one is nearly impossible to fuck up.
 
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You should do a run in build a soil. Top dress it with good worm castings and craftblend. It will be the easiest grow you ever do. Only water throughout the entire grow and no ph needed.
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I want to see Mike, Nick, and Cap run the build a soil and see what they pull. Keep in mind they say that you can run it with water only. It definitely ends up needing something at times.
 
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I'm organiflexible. I've borrowed a bottle or two in a pinch to finish out a grow. Lol
 
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I got some green leaf on the way in fact from their recent giveaway just got th e shipping details in my email a few days ago, still have my last bag from the last giveaway with the kelp meal, that was my next neut line to try, hit me up with some dosing ratios to start trying!
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In veg, as soon as the graduate to full veg, 25grams of the mega per 10gal
So 2.5gram a gallon
Nothing else really needed if you have good soil.
Then, this has thrown some folks, but I’m a believer in trying to push a decent amount of veg growth in full flower, so I double the mega in flower to 50grams per 10 gallon basin.
5grams a gallon
Sweet candy, I start at 1gram per gallon with the 5gr of mega,!!!! Gradually increasing the dose to no more than 2.5gr per gal
And I just toss in the kelp powder at 1gram per gallon!they love it. B
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Lol indoors I use the synganic approach. I keep some canna A and B around for the quick slap in the face to keep my girls in line
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Bro I dig the fuck out of that approach.
Seriously this is just me now, but the synthetic non synthetic thing always baffled me when it comes to plant application.
Abig bone of contention with me is the countries the fertz are made in, what they are required to list on the info chart in terms of buffers and fillers in medium, I’d bet dollars to nugs it’s not a super secret nutrient that is mystery awesome for your regular bowel movements.
 
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I want to see Mike, Nick, and Cap run the build a soil and see what they pull. Keep in mind they say that you can run it with water only. It definitely ends up something at times.
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I’ve looked at it for sure I’m between tryin that or the hydro buckets I saw earlier

For $59 I’m really thinking about it lol
 

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I’ve looked at it for sure I’m between tryin that or the hydro buckets I saw earlier

For $59 I’m really thinking about it lol
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The thrifty man pays trice. Just saying. but down to the results would be nice to see what you can do, sure am not interested in seeing contest with that unit .
 
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In veg, as soon as the graduate to full veg, 25grams of the mega per 10gal
So 2.5gram a gallon
Nothing else really needed if you have good soil.
Then, this has thrown some folks, but I’m a believer in trying to push a decent amount of veg growth in full flower, so I double the mega in flower to 50grams per 10 gallon basin.
5grams a gallon
Sweet candy, I start at 1gram per gallon with the 5gr of mega,!!!! Gradually increasing the dose to no more than 2.5gr per gal
And I just toss in the kelp powder at 1gram per gallon!they love it. B
Bro I dig the fuck out of that approach.
Seriously this is just me now, but the synthetic non synthetic thing always baffled me when it comes to plant application.
Abig bone of contention with me is the countries the fertz are made in, what they are required to list on the info chart in terms of buffers and fillers in medium, I’d bet dollars to nugs it’s not a super secret nutrient that is mystery awesome for your regular bowel movements.
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Yep I don’t back down with the micro, (5-0-1) just keep it low at 3ml/gal, but I keep it going until I cut out the bloom, makes a major difference in the end result imo!
 
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The thrifty man pays trice. Just saying. but down to the results would be nice to see what you can do, sure am not interested in seeing contest with that unit .
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I’ll check it out I promise fam! I hate buying by any soil online though, so overpriced
 
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I was getting strawberry fields for $17 a bag found a 4 pack online same bags $120
 
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I’ll check it out I promise fam! I hate buying by any soil online though, so overpriced
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You could always hit him up about a sponsorship here and suggested competition . I might be reaching for the moon here but I like the idea.
 
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It's Rainbow Belts x Okie, same strain I just did 15 weeks of Flowering in my Stealth Box and pulled 4.1 ounces from.

Maybe I'll chop that one, all trichomes are cloudy but no Amber, the other 2 plants are not quite done yet. 1 is taking a gallon of water every other day and the other a day longer.

I knew it was pretty close, been waiting for some Amber trichomes. It's taking way less water then the other 2 so maybe chop is best option.
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too much light I assume what is your umol
 
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Is there an effective way to kill eggs in store bought soil that are just waiting to spring up in my perfect, insect environment

Thanks
 
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too much light I assume what is your umol
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It was the smallest plant in the tent and I let it go to long, over ripened caused foxtailing. Well I should say that all 3 were probably a little over ripe but that one was the most mature and reacted.

I was at 40% power at 24" at that time, I lower light intensity toward the end of flower.
 
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I would always just use fresh with Fox Farm but because of the price of Pro-Mix, reusing is definitely something I'm interested in!
Is there a certain brand Myco you like to use and how much do you use for let's say each 5 gallons of soil you're reusing?
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I've been digging Mykos by Extreme Gardening. Just buy one bag and then make your own with a molasses and water mix. There's a video floating around here somewhere, or on YT I should say, showing a great way to breed your own mycorrhizae in this manner. I'll have to dig it up but my tooth is hurting so bad I can't even think straight right now

But I basically just add it back as I go in my pots. Like a teaspoon per 1 gallon pot, something like that. Doesn't take much especially if you make your own

Also I've stored used promix both outdoors uncovered, and indoors, never noticed any difference from fresh. It's really a great medium. I'm even growing my 1GC plant in some 3x used promix
 
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First time using it and I have to say I'm loving everything about it so far, even though I swear by Fox Farm....the consistency, texture, etc of the Pro-Mix is far superior IMO.

The Pro-Mix HP I'm using, I won in a contest on another site. Now they might have me hooked which means I'll have to pay for it and the shipping

Goodbye to the days of buying Fox Farm local for $20 a bag and buy 4 get 1 free
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Also I use the promix BX - M as well that’s what I’m currently running, (what the local shop got in first this spring I ripped the first pallet open and got the first bale haha, gotta run down the farm store and grab a new bale anyways they’ll probably have BX -M as usual but I always add perlite anyways

I don’t reuse soil in my tents but it all hits the compost pile and goes back into the pots or in the the ground holes outdoors for veggies in the spring
 
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Also I use the promix BX - M as well that’s what I’m currently running, (what the local shop got in first this spring I ripped the first pallet open and got the first bale haha, gotta run down the farm store and grab a new bale anyways they’ll probably have BX -M as usual but I always add perlite anyways

I don’t reuse soil in my tents but it all hits the compost pile and goes back into the pots or in the the ground holes outdoors for veggies in the spring
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Try using it for flower pots or something too. I have tires filled with promix outside we plant in every year never have to really fuck with it just seems to last forever
 
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Well I done fuckin did it this time! let the solo dry to much before up pot and the soil broke apart in my hands as I was getting ready to set it down into the bag, then of course I tried to “make things better” and it only fell apart more! I was able to hold support on the plant to hopefully not snap the tap root, but im not sure what how the other roots are doing. It’s my dumbass fault. Now i just hope it survives enough for clones! That was going to be my fire smoke!
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I did this recently on my last grow, she took off like a beast a few days later, fingers crossed you just created a monster!
 
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