(4) 600 watt setup

Cali Grower · Jul 5, 2011

I was thinking of running 4 600 watt lights with insulated ducting off of one 8 inch fan.

would the heat fry the 8 inch fan? would that be enough to keep temps down or would i need a ac? would i be better of with 2 1000s to keep costs within my budget?

Id be working with ~3-4k to cover everything minus electricity and such. Im thinking that will be enough for soil, pots, plants, a tent (if needed), a 8" fan, ducting, nutrients and possibly a co2 burner. I'm sticking with soil since any hydro setup would automatically mean less lights. Ill be using subcool's supersoil. now lets hear it, arrrriba! :banana1sv6:

ps. dont read to far into the celebration, lol

hiboy · Jul 5, 2011

Youll def. need a/c with that many lights.
4 600s would cover more area than 2 1000s.
More heat more light more electricity per month
Figure out what your looking to spend a month and what your wanting for yield
h

Chronic Monster · Jul 5, 2011

you could put the inline fan(if it is a inline) before the lights so its blowing over the lights and not sucking hot air into the fan.
just a thought

Tokenblack · Jul 5, 2011

Im rocking 600W HPS' too, but (not like anyone here isnt "up" on their hydro education, but 600W is the best bang for both your wallet, your plants, and your electricity bill...
600W-HPS=140 lumens per kW
600W-MH=120 lumens per kW
600W-CFL=100 lumens per kW
Sooo...as long as you put in a small air-conditioner and fan you will be good in the spring and winter months but when you hit summer, depending on your area code in Cali (805 myself) you will have problems with humidity, thereby leading to "botrytis, airborne fungus, disease, etc...." in that case...spend a little cheddar and fork out the humidifier...Other than that....stay with the 600W you will not be unsatisfied!!! and you'll be able to pack around 30 or so plants in there for a SOG setup...or a SCROG with larger cola'd plants.

Hope it helps...

"Token"

Cali Grower · Jul 6, 2011

Chronic Monster said:
you could put the inline fan(if it is a inline) before the lights so its blowing over the lights and not sucking hot air into the fan.
just a thought

there's an idea. i forgot that i wouldnt neccesarily need to have a carbon filter attached so i could in fact push it over them. thanks for that thought! :banana1sv6:

hiboy said:
Youll def. need a/c with that many lights.
4 600s would cover more area than 2 1000s.
More heat more light more electricity per month
Figure out what your looking to spend a month and what your wanting for yield
h

id have about 200 set aside for power and I'm aiming for 1 - 2 lbs, ill take anything between though. i think 3 600s would be a smarter move.

Tokenblack said:
Im rocking 600W HPS' too, but (not like anyone here isnt "up" on their hydro education, but 600W is the best bang for both your wallet, your plants, and your electricity bill...
600W-HPS=140 lumens per kW
600W-MH=120 lumens per kW
600W-CFL=100 lumens per kW
Sooo...as long as you put in a small air-conditioner and fan you will be good in the spring and winter months but when you hit summer, depending on your area code in Cali (805 myself) you will have problems with humidity, thereby leading to "botrytis, airborne fungus, disease, etc...." in that case...spend a little cheddar and fork out the humidifier...Other than that....stay with the 600W you will not be unsatisfied!!! and you'll be able to pack around 30 or so plants in there for a SOG setup...or a SCROG with larger cola'd plants.

Hope it helps...

"Token"

im pretty damn close to the coast. ~45 from frisco and it gets cool at night no matter what the day temp was earlier. im thinking now that 4 may be a stretch and it would be better just to go with 3 for good measure. i like the idea of a small ac too but i would also need a controller(if im not mistaken), which would add to costs. but, those may be able to fit in the budget if thats all the extras i buy. id probably run 16 or so plants and veg them a little longer to get the extra weight. i like the idea of small plant numbers. even though i have all my papers, and 100% legitimately, less plants = less work. i hope to spend a little extra to get some already established and sizable plants so i can veg them for 2 weeks max, and only if needed. and did you mean a dehumidifier?

thanks for the quick replies!

armoured · Jul 6, 2011

Remember the old story that less heat temp less water the air will hold !!!

hiboy · Jul 6, 2011

For your info
Fellow grower here in cali has 1600 watts, 12k btu air cond, all the 120v equipment and his bill is around 350-400 a month depending on outdoor temps. That also includes his house usage, refridg, micro, etc.
h

cheech · Jul 6, 2011

i have a 6'' inline fan easily handling 4k lights... the fan seems to be running fine, and it's been working hard for a year and a half.

if you have cool nights consider running the lights on during the night and exhausting the hoods and the room into the attic or out a window, and then using the ac during the day when the lights are off... then at least your only using your ac 12 hours.

spinkus · Jul 6, 2011

Chronic Monster said:
you could put the inline fan(if it is a inline) before the lights so its blowing over the lights and not sucking hot air into the fan.
just a thought

I run 4 - 600's and this is exactly how l do it. l too was afraid of frying it due to the heat, so l push through 4 and it works just fine

Look at the first few pics, that's how mine's done

spinkus · Jul 6, 2011

Also you could get 4lb pretty easy once you have your strains dialed in.

4 plants under each 600 would be 16 plants, yield a qp per plant and you have a lb per 600... A qp per plant is very obtainable!

Cali Grower · Jul 6, 2011

spinkus said:
Also you could get 4lb pretty easy once you have your strains dialed in.

4 plants under each 600 would be 16 plants, yield a qp per plant and you have a lb per 600... A qp per plant is very obtainable!

Thats what I like to hear! That sounds perfect. :icon_animal26: I dont plan on running this setup for very long. I hope to do two runs and then a major upgrade.

spinkus said:
I run 4 - 600's and this is exactly how l do it. l too was afraid of frying it due to the heat, so l push through 4 and it works just fine

Look at the first few pics, that's how mine's done

Lovely plants man! They look like they loved the setup. 2 and 1/4 would be a beautiful first round harvest in my eyes. And do you have a journal for your second round were you went for 4? Id definitely comb through that too. that helped a bunch.

cheech said:
i have a 6'' inline fan easily handling 4k lights... the fan seems to be running fine, and it's been working hard for a year and a half.

if you have cool nights consider running the lights on during the night and exhausting the hoods and the room into the attic or out a window, and then using the ac during the day when the lights are off... then at least your only using your ac 12 hours.

that would most likely be what happened. i was thinking about pulling air outside at nights and using the ac as neeeded (i.e. when the forecast shows day temps of 90+. im talkin it gets COLD here at night, even when we were havin those 100 degree days last season. im that close to ocean yet im far enough a way to make the beach a whole day event.
:cool0041:

hiboy said:
For your info
Fellow grower here in cali has 1600 watts, 12k btu air cond, all the 120v equipment and his bill is around 350-400 a month depending on outdoor temps. That also includes his house usage, refridg, micro, etc.
h

Is it hydro? Because if so, that would make his bill more than mine. Id be running 100% organics in soil. Another method of saving; plus it tastes so much better.

+rep is going around for everyone. most of the replies have helped tremendously. just to hear other opinions and thoughts on the matter. :banana1sv6:

spinkus · Jul 6, 2011

Not sure if l have a journal for the 2nd time l ran or not...

But l am getting 4 steady now, that was 2 years ago l believe when l first set it up. l was running some low yielders and it was the 1st time l had run the waterfarms, so things were light that round

I have some good yielders l run and l veg for about a month, thats what got me to 4. I also dont run the waterfarms right now in the summer, running 50% coc 50% chunky perlite in 7 gal pots right now, and the results are great

Just give'm a little veg and you should be able to pull it off, no problem man

l have a rather large veg room, so l can veg the next 16 in there while my other round is finishing up, it's nice to have and saves me a month of extra time in the bloom room

Good luck!

Cali Grower · Jul 6, 2011

spinkus said:
Not sure if l have a journal for the 2nd time l ran or not...

But l am getting 4 steady now, that was 2 years ago l believe when l first set it up. l was running some low yielders and it was the 1st time l had run the waterfarms, so things were light that round

I have some good yielders l run and l veg for about a month, thats what got me to 4. I also dont run the waterfarms right now in the summer, running 50% coc 50% chunky perlite in 7 gal pots right now, and the results are great

Just give'm a little veg and you should be able to pull it off, no problem man

l have a rather large veg room, so l can veg the next 16 in there while my other round is finishing up, it's nice to have and saves me a month of extra time in the bloom room

Good luck!

:icon_animal26: thats promising. i plan on getting some plants vegged for at least two weeks already, then ill veg 2 or so more, then flip. thats the rough plan at least.

also, someone sent me a pm but i cant reply to it for some reason, i can only reply to administrators. ima check the rules and see if i missed something cause i guess it has me done as a new user, maybe becuase i dont post very much, mainly read. :hi either way, thanks to him for clearing up his setup. and im not running anything as of yet so i guess you could say i pay nothing :cool0041:

hiboy · Jul 6, 2011

Yep its hyrdro, so there are pumps that run, not to much more than that.
Yes soil tests better, at least from my taste experience.
h

Cali Grower · Jul 7, 2011

hiboy said:
Yep its hyrdro, so there are pumps that run, not to much more than that.
Yes soil tests better, at least from my taste experience.
h

agreed, i live pretty close to organicann and most people who live around there and except nothing but the best, visit that club. my local club is bomb as hell too, just not organic. there edibles are though.

your buddy pm'd but i cant reply for some reason. also, he said he's runnin 2 1000s and a couple of inline fans: one 10" and 12" i believe. i would buy one 8" and one 6" that i currently have. plus, he's in socal where days get hot as a hell. 100 degrees around where im at is news. not the case in most SoCal areas. all thats to say my bill should theoretically be less then his. i wont need nearly as much cooling as he would and the fact that a 12000 btu air conditioner is working for him, makes me think i could potentially pull it off.

this thread is mainly a worse case scenario as i will definitely be getting a ac if its in the budget, and the biggest possible since i plan to upgrade. but, as of now, wether it will be in the budget is unknown.

thanks for all your help and everyone who contributed. i welcome more thoughts if you have them but you guys have pretty much done this thread justice as it stands :banana1sv6:

Chronic Monster · Jul 7, 2011

Cali Grower said:
there's an idea. i forgot that i wouldnt neccesarily need to have a carbon filter attached so i could in fact push it over them. thanks for that thought! :banana1sv6:

Well technically you could go Carbon filter > inline fan > then connect to the lights.. you would be creating a negative pressure in the room, the inline fan pulls air through the carbon filter, it is then scrubbed, then it would cool your lights and then exit..

spinkus · Jul 7, 2011

Chronic Monster said:
Well technically you could go Carbon filter > inline fan > then connect to the lights.. you would be creating a negative pressure in the room, the inline fan pulls air through the carbon filter, it is then scrubbed, then it would cool your lights and then exit..

Bingo

OGONLY · Jul 7, 2011

Hey Cali grower you need 50 posts to send PMs. You're almost half way there. You can use this thread to ask me any questions you may have if you'd like.

1971 · Jul 7, 2011

spinkus said:
Also you could get 4lb pretty easy once you have your strains dialed in.

4 plants under each 600 would be 16 plants, yield a qp per plant and you have a lb per 600... A qp per plant is very obtainable!

i don't think this is realistic, and honestly, i don't believe it. maybe if you count all the stuff that isn't A grade, but I call b.s.

i am running 4 600's and am running 10 plants on a 3x3 table. i am thinking of dropping the plant numbers to 8 per tray and adding a light. the plants were about 14" when flowered.

i use a 10" max fan and have it dialed down a bit and am using melon heads

spinkus · Jul 7, 2011

4 oz dry per plant with 4 under one 600 is BS? Thats only 450 grams off a 600HPS, not even a gram per watt and your calling BS? l'd hate to see what kind of yields your pulling if you see .75gpw as unobtainable and BS...

Good luck with that 1971

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