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500 dollar light stretches a plant

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i knew it was 66%red 33% blue. but not no blue. maybe it will be interesting to see how that does for a vegatative plant. i thought I read somewhere that the full spectrum were good for both vegatative and flowering plants. just not at the pricetag. if i find out it doesnt work later on.
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The hiccup I see is that they claim it is to be used in conjunction with natural light! Like it is specifically made for greenhouses! Will be interesting if you keep it!
 
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The hiccup I see is that they claim it is to be used in conjunction with natural light! Like it is specifically made for greenhouses! Will be interesting if you keep it!
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You hit the nail on the head I think after reading the sf was red with a deep red & they were claiming it was great for growth and flower
I couldn’t understand it till I noticed for greenhouse. That’s a new one new growers might not figure I didn’t at first and am not new.
I was puzzled by the claim however, I didn’t take the greenhouse part into it as many lights say that. They should be more clear that it’s not an indoor light.
 
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I don’t think this is the spectrum graph you are looking for! I think this is a specialized light!
 
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I don’t think this is the spectrum graph you are looking for! I think this is a specialized light!View attachment 2330098
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But that is just one model! My mistake! If you have the 630 F, then you might be in business!
 
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But it says Plain as day that they are made to be used as supplemental lighting in greenhouses! Good luck!
 
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ive seen a redblue light do pretty well in a tent but it was definately more blue than this one. its definately purple or pink but not red. if i could just sneak through vegatative getting by with it then i think it would do pretty good from what i understand in flowering about red lights. is it not gonna veg at all or what?
 
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well to keep it simple it will veg
 
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ive seen a redblue light do pretty well in a tent but it was definately more blue than this one. its definately purple or pink but not red. if i could just sneak through vegatative getting by with it then i think it would do pretty good from what i understand in flowering about red lights. is it not gonna veg at all or what?
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How big is the space you're growing in?
Do you only have 1 plant?

There's cheap quailty lights that will grow a plant from seed to harvest, ViparSpectra XS1500 pro can be had for under $100 and has a killer par map for the size light it is.
Have one sitting in a box as a backup light.

Spider Farmer SF1000 is a popular light on this forum as well.

I would find something full spectrum and more suitable for the full growth cycle that doesn't break the bank.

That red light can be added when you flower or try and sell it and make back some of the loss if you can't return it.
 
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I guess I'll add to my last post,

If you can't really buy another light right now, do you happen to have any florescent tube lights or any clamp lamps with CFLs or something?

If you possibly have other types of bulbs and fixtures, workshop lights, or something then you could probably make something work.
 
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ive seen a redblue light do pretty well in a tent but it was definately more blue than this one. its definately purple or pink but not red. if i could just sneak through vegatative getting by with it then i think it would do pretty good from what i understand in flowering about red lights. is it not gonna veg at all or what?
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Depends on which model you have! If you have the 630R I don’t think it will veg very good.
 
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Return it!
 
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i think what im gonna do is just run some vegatative at the par settings of 300 for seedling 600 for vegatative, 900 for flowering that it is capable of under the tempurature that it can be and see what ya'll think. thats my male plant but i have some seeds coming in the mail that im gonna breed it with soon. just put it under there to see how it would do after being under a 5w for 2mo. i thought that it had stretched maybe i was wrong. heres another picture of the plant from the side with its miniature vegatative growth and also what do you think, is it ready for vegatative lighting or would you consider it still a seedling? has it stretched?

i meant to add before that it runs cooler and equivelent in white light is way hotter. it runs 3.6 and most whitelights are only 2.8
 

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I looked up the specs on that light, it has almost no blue. That light is not really suitable for your purposes, I’d return it and go for something more full spectrum, maybe with a little lean red. I run an HLG rspec for my entire grows and have no stretch issues.
 
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i think what im gonna do is just run some vegatative at the par settings of 300 for seedling 600 for vegatative, 900 for flowering that it is capable of under the tempurature that it can be and see what ya'll think. thats my male plant but i have some seeds coming in the mail that im gonna breed it with soon. just put it under there to see how it would do after being under a 5w for 2mo. i thought that it had stretched maybe i was wrong. heres another picture of the plant from the side with its miniature vegatative growth and also what do you think, is it ready for vegatative lighting or would you consider it still a seedling? has it stretched?

i meant to add before that it runs cooler and equivelent in white light is way hotter. it runs 3.6 and most whitelights are only 2.8
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Looks really stretched to me.

When you transplant it, you can bury most of the stem.

What is the 3.6 and 2.8 you're referring to as far as red and white light?

Now your breeding plan, do you just want to breed more male and female seeds or do you want to breed feminized seeds?

Pollinating a female with a male, the seeds will be regular so no way to tell if the majority is male or female seeds/plants.

If you want to make feminized seeds, you need to hermie a female plant and use its pollen to pollinate another female plant.
 
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lol that almost looks like a different plant
Yeah that’s seriously stretching
Looking at that pic I’d switch the light even a clf would cause less stretching
 
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I looked up the specs on that light, it has almost no blue. That light is not really suitable for your purposes, I’d return it and go for something more full spectrum, maybe with a little lean red. I run an HLG rspec for my entire grows and have no stretch issues.
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I run the HLG Scorpion RSpec 600 in my 8x4 along side 2 VS4000.
Love the HLG, got it for $230 used (barely). Immediately noticed the difference in the first grow with the HLG in my tent!
 
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wow, she really is stretching. check out my diary and see what i did with a sickly little plant nearly identical to yours. i use a vivosun 300w full spectrum that i bought at an auction for like $40 bucks... seems to be working great so far. i'm not saying do what i do, just know that there is always potential in every plant, endeavor to persevere and never give up brother
 

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I run the HLG Scorpion RSpec 600 in my 8x4 along side 2 VS4000.
Love the HLG, got it for $230 used (barely). Immediately noticed the difference in the first grow with the HLG in my tent!
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I’m running a 550 rspec, got it refurbished about 4 years ago, it’s been great. HLG customer service is outstanding. I asked if they sold a kit to remote the driver, they didn’t, but sent me exact instructions on how to do it, complete with a parts list and where I could get the parts! That’s customer service.
 
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How much better would the weed be than with a light that costs less than half as much? That's how I think. I keep wondering if people are buying more light than is needed, and meanwhile, LED lights keep getting better. I've grown some very good weed with $150 lights. My tents are probably smaller, though.
 
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Pretty overwhelming consensus. Return it friendo, you can spend that money much more wisely. You can spend less money, get a better light, and get better results, and not have wasted $500.
 
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