jumpincactus
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Thank you.@jumpincactus You might consider checking out OG BIOWAR. @Capulator
It absolutely crushes most of the soil bennies on the market. Caps Nute Pack contains 125 spore colonies per gram of each of these mycorrhizae.......
Glomus intraradices
-Glomus mosseae
-Glomus aggregatum
-Glomus clarum
I've never grown Cannabis before. I recently received my expensive seeds. I will be growing outdoors, in air root pruning pots, using a potting soil mix of Roots Organic Formula 707 & Fox Farms Ocean Forest. I want to prepare the soil so my seeds and seedlings have the best foundation in which to start their lives.
I just looked at the OG BIOWAR website. The Root Pack product for mixing into potting soil: Prices are 4 oz @ $28.99, 8 oz @ $49.99, 16 oz @ $87.99, up to $1,529.99 for an OG 10 kilo bucket.
QUESTION: Please recommend other less expensive and similarly effective Mycorrhizae products containing just the Glomus spore strains? In another THC Farmer discussion, I learned that Cannabis only uses the Glomus spores strains. Also learned here that products containing the cheaper, more widely marketed Trichoderma spore strains would dominate and "eat" the Glomus spores.
I did read the DIY Mycorrihzae paper mentioned above, which instructs one to use one's own garden soil. Problem is, I live where Oak Root Fungus is widespread and is still on a killing rampage. I had to pay pros to remove a couple of my badly infected dying oaks. I do not know whether Oak Root Fungus (Armillaria Mellea which also kills Begonia, Carnation, Daffodil, Dahlia, Geranium, Peony, etc.) harms Cannabis. I do not want to risk losing my $10-$20 per seed seedlings to Oak Root Fungus which, besides killing my oaks, has been harmful to other species of plants I grow directly in my garden soil.
I understand your concern. I would be inclined to think you would run the risk of it killing your gurls. Yea the inoculation/germination rates from commercially produced products are rather low.I have heard that Caps OG Biowar bennies work well.
Nice input..... Mainly why I have always questioned why all the hype over mycho's. .....yes great to have, if ya need em. Most plants don't even require mychos if there are sufficient nutrients in the rhizosphere that is bioavailable to the plant, typically mchos thrive when the soil or substrate is deficient in phosphorus or potassium. If your no till or doing a good organic regimen, myhos aren't even needed really.This is VERY true, esp when it comes to premade liq innocs from the store.
I can try and break it down, but i am not a phd so do ur own research too.
Lots of myco/rhyzo products only list Propugales becuase they are made of of broken up roots cultivated with the bennies desired. For example most VAM innoculants will grow on a root network of a plant at the facility, once the roots are large and wide spread they dry them out and pulverize them. These propugales are only viable for a few weeks, usually MUCH before you even purchase the product. This is will be fimilar to anyone who has ever grown shrooms and used a colonized jar to inncoulate the other jars. This way is MUCH faster at colonizing your roots because the propugales are already living, but requires direct contact with roots and viable props to colonize.
The other propugales are SPORES, now these are much harder to count and are usually MUCH lower in numbers in VAM products that only list counts in props. Many times when you are getting innoc products it tends to be the spores that colonized your plants because the other props are long dead/unactive. Spores take much longer to germ, are harder to germ, and take much longer to colonize. The one pro they do have is they stay active for upto 3 years in their powder form. When you are trying to innoculate with spores it is crucial to start EARLY in the plants life. Some spores take upto 6weeks to germinate and colonize a root system.
Lasty the questions is, what purpose do you need the bennies to serves. VAM help with nute uptake, while others defend against pathogens. Some bacteria kill bugs, some break down old roots. Also IMO Great White is garbo becuase it contains Ecto and Endo mycos, but cannabis can only use Ecto mycos so you are paying for bennies you cant use. I'd do Orca before anything.
Side Note: about Trichoderma taking over the tea, I have heard this too from a reputrable source although I couldn't find the sci paper on it. So currently I have stopped using it and started added powder enzymes like cellulase and hemicellulase to break down the roots. Cellulase powder is actually made in factories from Trichoiderma.
Hope this helps.
Nice input..... Mainly why I have always questioned why all the hype over mycho's. .....yes great to have, if ya need em. Most plants don't even require mychos if there are sufficient nutrients in the rhizosphere that is bioavailable to the plant, typically mchos thrive when the soil or substrate is deficient in phosphorus or potassium. If your no till or doing a good organic regimen, myhos aren't even needed really.
And never could understand why anyone would pay for a product that may not even show its efficacy until almost harvest time. Just thinkin out loud.:(
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