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Thanks for the correction with regards to the terminology. I too read the material that came with the unit before doing anything, but that was a while back. I have used a carrier solvent run with the primary solvent (Everclear and Butane together), the result was very dark because the alcohol stripped more chlorophyl.
I usually use Everclear as the transport solvent, if I use a transport at all.
If you filtered the Transport solvent somehow to remove the waxes, you would be left with the absolute (as I understand things). The transport will also make recovery of the butane easier.
I did a soak for five minutes on that run because I was experimenting. I have done long inversions and short ones. I have also done the short burst method, I've done it under pressure (350PSI).
The short burst gave an initial product with less waxes. It looked like cleaned Concrete actually. This is because of the short time of exposure limiting the amount of wax in the end product.
A long soak will give you a dark product, and one that may taste very bad, but it may also be the most potent extract you've made.
The longer the solvent is in contact, the more stuff gets extracted... good stuff and unwanted stuff. You can then clean up the dark, high quality concrete and end up with golden shatter of the highest grade.
That is what I meant earlier when I said dealing with the gas companies can be a pain in the ass... I just gave up and first experimented with Vector and King brands that I first cleaned by doing a dry run.
I have not been getting back all my butane every run. I am anxiously awaiting the release of the Rotary Evaporators and Chilled Vacuum chambers designed for 100% recovery. I just wonder what that will cost. Anyhow, I would be cautious about using your expensive, pure gas from AirGas for your initial experimentation.
This thing is really all about experimentation. They list the variables, you choose how to manipulate them.
I took my blob of black concrete, dissolved it in Everclear, added Active Carbon, and allowed it to settle at room temperature. In the photo below, you can see the Carbon on the bottom of the glass. In and on the carbon layer is a layer of waxes and other shit (still learning what that shit is). Above the wax layer is a clear golden liquid. If this liquid is removed, leaving behind the waxes and resins, and the alcohol is evaporated off, the result would be the Absolute. That is my understanding so far.
Here are some Photos.
Butane extracted Concrete (usually ranges in color from blond to black):
http://i1238.invalid.com/albums/ff485/StinkBomb420/IMG_4072.jpg
Jar with a bottom layer of active carbon, the grey/white layer is the waxes that have precipitated out of solution. In the past, I have seen the waxes separate out, but they remain suspended in the solution. I'm guessing any condensation nuclei would work (sand probably does the same thing) if you don't have your hands on carbon.
http://i1238.invalid.com/albums/ff485/StinkBomb420/IMG_4066.jpg
Above the grey band is the Absolute prior to evaporation of the alcohol.
This is the finished product after evaporation of the alcohol, the Absolute:
http://i1238.invalid.com/albums/ff485/StinkBomb420/IMG_4041.jpg
It is less fragrant than the concrete, but it gets you wrecked and it is smooth as hell to hit. The texture is like sticky silly putty. Pull quick and she snaps. Non-Newtonian awesomeness.
I usually use Everclear as the transport solvent, if I use a transport at all.
If you filtered the Transport solvent somehow to remove the waxes, you would be left with the absolute (as I understand things). The transport will also make recovery of the butane easier.
I did a soak for five minutes on that run because I was experimenting. I have done long inversions and short ones. I have also done the short burst method, I've done it under pressure (350PSI).
The short burst gave an initial product with less waxes. It looked like cleaned Concrete actually. This is because of the short time of exposure limiting the amount of wax in the end product.
A long soak will give you a dark product, and one that may taste very bad, but it may also be the most potent extract you've made.
The longer the solvent is in contact, the more stuff gets extracted... good stuff and unwanted stuff. You can then clean up the dark, high quality concrete and end up with golden shatter of the highest grade.
That is what I meant earlier when I said dealing with the gas companies can be a pain in the ass... I just gave up and first experimented with Vector and King brands that I first cleaned by doing a dry run.
I have not been getting back all my butane every run. I am anxiously awaiting the release of the Rotary Evaporators and Chilled Vacuum chambers designed for 100% recovery. I just wonder what that will cost. Anyhow, I would be cautious about using your expensive, pure gas from AirGas for your initial experimentation.
This thing is really all about experimentation. They list the variables, you choose how to manipulate them.
I took my blob of black concrete, dissolved it in Everclear, added Active Carbon, and allowed it to settle at room temperature. In the photo below, you can see the Carbon on the bottom of the glass. In and on the carbon layer is a layer of waxes and other shit (still learning what that shit is). Above the wax layer is a clear golden liquid. If this liquid is removed, leaving behind the waxes and resins, and the alcohol is evaporated off, the result would be the Absolute. That is my understanding so far.
Here are some Photos.
Butane extracted Concrete (usually ranges in color from blond to black):
http://i1238.invalid.com/albums/ff485/StinkBomb420/IMG_4072.jpg
Jar with a bottom layer of active carbon, the grey/white layer is the waxes that have precipitated out of solution. In the past, I have seen the waxes separate out, but they remain suspended in the solution. I'm guessing any condensation nuclei would work (sand probably does the same thing) if you don't have your hands on carbon.
http://i1238.invalid.com/albums/ff485/StinkBomb420/IMG_4066.jpg
Above the grey band is the Absolute prior to evaporation of the alcohol.
This is the finished product after evaporation of the alcohol, the Absolute:
http://i1238.invalid.com/albums/ff485/StinkBomb420/IMG_4041.jpg
It is less fragrant than the concrete, but it gets you wrecked and it is smooth as hell to hit. The texture is like sticky silly putty. Pull quick and she snaps. Non-Newtonian awesomeness.