C0pperhead said:

Never understood the aggressive response toward someone voicing a concern for another's health.

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Florida_Mike said:

"No doubt about there being known problems with some (mostly older) vaccines"... That was literally my opening statement homie.

I only replied to you in the first place bc you come (**supposedly brand new to the farm @ 14 comments) out of nowhere and jump into the middle of an ongoing conversation that started between op and myself on a completely different thread of his. There, I was stressing the fact that science matters. The fact that science has gotten us way further than "organic" has ever thought of. I posted a Penn and Teller "Bullshit" clip about vaccination, that's what he was replying to.

You train wrecked an ongoing conversation, in direct opposition to something I originally said, mostly with conspiracy theories; so I rebutted. It wasn't to be argumentative, I was simply defending my position in an ongoing convo/debate with facts...

So who looks like an ass now? (btw, I didn't resort to name calling)

**So why 2 accounts? I see your other account "C[zero]pperh3ad", just curious

If you are brand new (which I doubt), then Welcome to the Farm! There's a lot of very cool, very knowledgeable people here, if you came here to be sociable; to share, to learn from, and teach others; then you've come to the right place. If you've come to train-wreck ongoing debates, then sorry, you're not going to get a free pass.

I'm pretty cool 98% of the time, that doesn't mean I won't call out what I perceive to be bullshit when I see it.

1. Vaccines are one of the safest medical tools ever created​

Vaccines go through:

• years of development
• safety testing in multiple phases
• independent reviews
• monitoring even after approval
• They are studied more thoroughly than nearly any other medical product.

2. Side effects exist — but they are usually mild and short-lived​

Common temporary effects:

• sore arm
• fatigue
• fever
• headache

These show the immune system is learning.

Serious side effects are extremely rare, far less common than complications from the diseases themselves.

3. The diseases are vastly more dangerous​

Before vaccines:

• Smallpox killed 300–500 million people
• Polio paralyzed and killed children regularly
• Measles killed 2.6 million people per year
• Whooping cough, diphtheria, tetanus killed infants and pregnant women
• Influenza pandemics killed millions
• Vaccines turned these from everyday killers into rare or eliminated threats

I'm not saying vaccines are without inherent risks. I'm not saying some may not be necessary. No doubt about autism and other nasty's being on the rise; but I've already said: "correlation doesn't equal causation". And I'm saying the benefits far outweigh any (very) slight risks; know or unknown.

Again, welcome to the farm (watch out for wasps)

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C0pperhead said:

Name-calling or not, an insult is an insult. Didn't realize it was carried over from a previous thread. Thought he just randomly pulled vaccines out of the blue. My bad.

My next to last post was me in real time realizing I didn't give a shit enough to carry on the back and forth.

The two accounts is because I broke my phone and couldn't for the life of me remember my previous password(have no idea why I can't remember things). I had it saved on my previous phone so didn't have to type it in when I logged in. Lesson: keep passwords written down somewhere else. Other than the jabs I think we see eye to eye. I think so many controversial issues are out there to make sure that even like-minded people are divided somehow. Stay up homie

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Florida_Mike said:

Apologies

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Ninjadogma said:

The world is flat in a way that completely wraps around itself. If light could bend, you would be staring at the back of your head on a "flat plane" Earth.

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ChairmanFester said:

Hey I found a new crazy, he really likes me. I think it's love all over again.

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