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good info here, i too think too little pot (rootbound)..maybe not up potted before flowering, do you use perlite in coco? how much?Are these your symptoms? Every time you water they will perk up, and 4-5 Hours later droop again? They perk up from the Oxy in the fresh water deplete it and droop.(how heavy are your pots) Ive been in Coco for over 10 years now, to me they look either Oxygen starved, Root bound or both. If your coco media isn't built for Hi-Frequency Fertigation's they will be Oxygen starved. Plastic pots can defeat the purpose of Coco unless you drill hundreds of 1/2 inch holes in the sides and bottoms(think Airpot) I ran 5 gal buckets when I 1st started w/ Coco and had identical issues, I drilled them and built my Coco for Hi Freq. (55/45 #4 Perlite) and my Issues went away, Coco as it dries quickly from the sides and bottom pulls in Oxygen by capillary action(think of a wet sponge sitting on your sink for 2 hours) The best Pots for Coco are Weaved (Rain Science or Radicle Bags or Airpots, I hate Plastic so Airpots are my last choice). Many of us will comment "You need to water coco more frequently" but if your Coco isn't built properly this is a mistake! ("we assume you built it properly") ..... Good Luck Farmer...
Yes you got the nail on the head.Are these your symptoms? Every time you water they will perk up, and 4-5 Hours later droop again? They perk up from the Oxy in the fresh water deplete it and droop.(how heavy are your pots) Ive been in Coco for over 10 years now, to me they look either Oxygen starved, Root bound or both. If your coco media isn't built for Hi-Frequency Fertigation's they will be Oxygen starved. Plastic pots can defeat the purpose of Coco unless you drill hundreds of 1/2 inch holes in the sides and bottoms(think Airpot) I ran 5 gal buckets when I 1st started w/ Coco and had identical issues, I drilled them and built my Coco for Hi Freq. (55/45 #4 Perlite) and my Issues went away, Coco as it dries quickly from the sides and bottom pulls in Oxygen by capillary action(think of a wet sponge sitting on your sink for 2 hours) The best Pots for Coco are Weaved (Rain Science or Radicle Bags or Airpots, I hate Plastic so Airpots are my last choice). Many of us will comment "You need to water coco more frequently" but if your Coco isn't built properly this is a mistake! ("we assume you built it properly") ..... Good Luck Farmer...
Drill and let them dry back a little if pots are heavy?, you need that oxygen in the Rhizome 1st - keep rockin !Yes you got the nail on the head.
That’s exactly what is happening.
So drill drill drill and flush them sounds about right.
Or am I wrong. I’ll be adding lots and lots of holes and a couple into a bigger bucket
Thank you for the awesome advice
My advice is get out of Coco and go to Promix. While learning how to grow Promix is almost idiot proof, not to worry about ph and only water twice a week. I know I know Coco has some advantages but its tricky to learn right off the bat. Imho I prefer the easy route to grow pot and PM with perlite is easy.Yes you got the nail on the head.
That’s exactly what is happening.
So drill drill drill and flush them sounds about right.
Or am I wrong. I’ll be adding lots and lots of holes and a couple into a bigger bucket
Thank you for the awesome advice
Im planing on using 40x 8.5L plastic pots for coco will veg 2 weeks then flick to 12/12. Using drain to waste system. Do you really think fab bags would be much better?Fabric pots are almost a must to get the drainage you want, and I would definitely turn the light down a little bit. These days it's so easy to overload plants with modern lights, especially in smaller spaces. You should absolutely stick with coco, it's really not difficult and it seems like you have a handle on the right things.
I've grown in both many times and with fabric bags the roots grow through the soil and don't wrap the sides and bottoms of the pots like in plastic , I like the idea of them but I really can't say they grow any better weed,Im planing on using 40x 8.5L plastic pots for coco will veg 2 weeks then flick to 12/12. Using drain to waste system. Do you really think fab bags would be much better?
I've grown in both many times and with fabric bags the roots grow through the soil and don't wrap the sides and bottoms of the pots like in plastic , I like the idea of them but I really can't say they grow any better weed,
They're a bit of a pain watering and getting runoff readings is a waste of time because unless you water painfully slow the water/ feed leaks out the sides throwing off any readings.
I use Promix and you need a bit more perlite in fabric pots imho because the soil dries out quicker and compacts after multiple water/ feed cycles. They're also a pain to transplant out of if you up pot like I do 3 times. I've had to cut 1 gal fab pots off to transplant out of.
I've 25 year old plastic pots I can still use and about 30 fabric pots stuffed in a bag all stained and need a good cleaning at a laundry mat or somewhere else, They don't clean easily like my plastic pots do
Its just a different learning curve you'll catch on if you stay with it and ask questions. I do well in what I do well in lol I'm too old to start learning new tricks. I've actually upgraded to auto pots. An Ebb and flow system with a reservoir & 6 pots attached. Still in Promix at a 50/50 perlire mix & auto fed into plastic pots.Hey, thanks for your reply. Ill stick with plastic for now then. I can't really get pro mix here with out having it shipped to my house which is a nightmare. Coco is really my only option by the looks of it.
Promix is just a peat based soil, there are a number of different producers of this type of mix. I'm using Green worlds VPW30 right now, or Sunshine Mix #4. you may have similar in your area, just look around for a peat based growing medium if you're interested in it.Hey, thanks for your reply. Ill stick with plastic for now then. I can't really get pro mix here with out having it shipped to my house which is a nightmare. Coco is really my only option by the looks of it.
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