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I'll go ahead and give it the 2nd bump for 2012, where does one get things like alfalfa meal, kelp meal, rice hulls etc...
I live in a city and the best I can hope for is a home depot locally, but if I travel a little bit I can get out to the country-ish places but I've never seen any place that carries this stuff, there was a couple "Agway" stores around that I went and checked out but the only plant products they carried were miracle grow, home depot has a better selection of organic products than that place.
Everyone says "feed stores" what is a feed store and how do I find one?
I like to add lacto bacillus to my alfalfa tea to really make it come alive ;)
...can you elaborate on that? If you don't mind that is...what does it do? where do you get it?
thanks
i know there is tons of info on that in the fermented plant extracts thread in organic soil. i have only glanced through it but if youre into growing truly organic you will love it
How often on the folliar feeding. Can I do it daily on 4" clones until they are well established and ready to transplant in to large containers? Now they are in 4" cups.
thanks man...I have played around with the idea of making concentrates and/or extracts...I will look later today...
...can you elaborate on that? If you don't mind that is...what does it do? where do you get it?
thanks
EM/BAM is anerobic bacteria. lactic acid bacteria, purple non sulphur bacteria and yeast. Some of which are lacto bacillus strains.
Can purchase online and brew your own. Can also look at the thead "making your own fermented plant extracts" to learn to make your own for less $$.
In case you do not want to read the entire thread. I will point you to a tutorial. How to make a lactobacilus culture
www dot hawaiihealingtree dot org/?p=163
Good Growing
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Propionic acid stabalized molasses.
I thought that I had found a great savings on molasses when I purchased a gallon for under $10.
This is about one tenth the cost of unsulfinated human consumption product from the grocery.
This 'bare baiting' molasses is preserved with propionic acid.
My first batch scared me off as I didn't see the microbial populations I was expecting.
It was only a gallon batch, so I chucked it out.
I am new to alfalfa tea, but very enthused and thus far encouraged by the results.
Will try to nail down this first observation, but microbes look the same, dead or alive, so I will need to base my assessments on density I guess.
I most often view under simple slide and cover slide, but I have a hemocytometer ? that presents a fixed volume well over an etched grid so that counts can tell you something.
I know that propionic acid is added to kill microbes. This would seem to be a big clue, but I still want to figure out a way to use cheep molasses.
This is a good thread and needs to survive.
Good that your are learning from other sources. I think that maybe is too much work reading and comprehension for some and maybe that is why you dont hear more about it. I do not care for sugars sitting too long in a hydro res. Best added and applied via teas, or added last day or two before changing out the res. Could make the bacteria bloom and go anerobic.I read on here in one of the threads, some back and forths about the pro's and con's of using products aimed at growing with molasses from companies who focus on grow products vs plain molasses (like blackstrap unsulphered grocery store kind). The gist was that hydro products with molasses could be treated(?) in some way so as to not cause the slime that sometimes occurs when adding molasses. I had great results with just "regular" molasses but then the last two times I added it, both times runing sterile res hydro-grow with DM Zone, that I had a slime/goop problem. I have since wanted to explore what might have caused that reaction after so many grows, in hydro, with molasses and no slime probs.
Very intricate interactions go on, as I am sure everyone knows, whether running sterile, and definitely when running live res's. I was wondering a couple things. Maybe I had a slime problem from some sort of anaerobic reaction the times it happened, but I would think sterile is sterile to aerobic and anaerobic. But that's a very un-educated guess. Whether or not this applies to using Alfalfa Tea in hydro is just something I am not ready to take on right now. I want to get a microscope.
I do know that when I make Alfalfa tea I get a wonderful head of foam going and I have read that this is a byproduct of free amino's and proteins from microbe growth. I posted a link in Caps Tea thread about that. On that point i wonder what microbes would be contained in Alfalfa Meal, but that would have a lot of variables I suppose.
I want a microscope really bad. Soon I can though.
I don't know if anyone has heard of iTunes U. If you have iTunes on your computer you go to the iTune's store and look up top and there is a link named iTunes U. It contains many college courses, either in their entirety, or special lecture series. Most come from a thing called OpenCourseware which is a project many colleges participate in and they record, either just audio or audio/visual courses from many big and small colleges. I am currently watching Biology 1a and 1b from Berkeley and it's a great intro Biology course if you have some basic understanding of Chemistry. Anyway, it's FREE. Participating colleges range worldwide, and some examples of the USA ones are MIT, Berkeley, almost every college in California, Harvard, UNC, UVA, VA Tech, and on and on.... I am surprised I don't here more about it. If anyone is interested but cannot find it, or you don't have iTunes, you can Google "opencourseware" and then go through the results or just bump this thread and let me know and I will put some links in.
Here is the one to the different Bio courses from Berkeley that are just on the web for a starter. The Bio 1a is sort of slow going but in Bio 1b he starts on fungi and things that interest me on the microbe front.
http://distancelearn.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=distancelearn&cdn=education&tm=9&f=10&su=p284.13.342.ip_p897.12.342.ip_&tt=11&bt=1&bts=1&zu=http%3A//webcast.berkeley.edu/
Let me try and help you out since your thinking seems skewed
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