ibTheMan said:

Alphakronik Genes Seeds
you guys ever heard of um?

There on the tude and look like they got some nice cross's check um out.

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OK.

I did my research on these guys. Since I know Subcool as a long time friend, I also knew they snorked some of his genes and his menu items.

With that said, i was curious about what they did with some of Subs stuff as well as headband and snowdogbx.

I have had about 200 dollars worth of Alphas beans around for about 8 months. I had the occasion to need to pop about 50 beans. I used the same tech for bean popping I always have..rapid rooters, once popped, sink rapid rooter in hi grade basic soil until it roots, then transplant into one gallon pots of Subs super soil...but a lite version.

I popped twenty Dr Who...all poppped and all are now getting ready to go from 400 watts of ho t5's to a few weeks under MH and then into ten gallon pots and into the 4k hps bud room.

I popped twenty Time Wreck...same result as above. All seeds were vigorous as hell.

I popped 5 freedbies from the Tude..some Barneys Pineapple Chunk, and some critical kush, and three other freebie fems from DNA and Royal Queen...all popped and took off.

Now..to the Alphakronic. They truly sucked under the exact same conditions. One of them made it into the baby stage and is under a small t5. The other 4 actually started popping and died. No vigour. Weed seeds.

Given that I used 7.0 ph water, pure hi grade soil with little or no supplements, then transplanted to a light version of subs super soil...the Alpha Kronic never made it out of the Rapid Rooter. They broke open and died.

I have heard this story over and over with peeps who have spent good money because their genetics seem interesting.

But after I purchased the beans, I talked to Sub and he gave me the story. These folks at alpha are NOT BREEDERS.

They make stuff that SOUNDS good, but they have not tested their work before charging for it.

We, the payers, are their tests.

They failed. I have five other packs of their crap. I am now looking for someone who has done me wrong who needs this crap.

Too bad. I like to support new breeders who at least have one product that never fails.

I have popped hundreds of TGA and the only time they failed I can find my error...ususually overwatering.

But one out of 4?

That is embarassing.

If Jay wants to call me, please PM me and I will explain more carefully what I did. I also will give these same genes a second chance if they replace the seeds.

But absent an attempt to replace the seeds and let me do my thing, which is good tech and lots of experience and great growers as friends, I will just tell the world that their genes suck and dont wast their money.

Of course, I am going to pop the rest of the crap I have just to see if the rest does the same as before.

I really wanted their genes to work.

But after telling Sub their genes sucked, he gave me the long explaination.

Not everyone that has good cuts they 'borrowed' from other people can actually breed the the genes they have.

Breeding is an art. Throwing seeds onto the market is foolish without long tests.

But, I will give them huge props if they can proove to me their genes are worth growing.

that will start by replacing the ones that died in vitro.

devilrays said:

just got 2 packs of sin city kush.... only 4 outta 10 cracked. not too happy right about now. both freebies cracked within 12 hours. wth right.
:sweating

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Yup. that is how they roll. While I am popping 40 TGA seeds that are now 8 inches tall and in their fourth node with trude leaves, and Tude freebie Fems that are all popping and tall...the 5 alphkronicks sucked air. Four died after popping half way open and one lives because i got to it at the right time to operate on it...it liveds. The other four were dead in vitro.

I have grown hundreds maybe thousands of seeds. I have unknown strain humbolt cartel seeds in the thousands, all bred with no thought at all..just make this indica plant go and go all season and survive pm and get to market.

We called it when finished down town brown. Not much bag appeal, but makes the most killer oils for eating or smoking. And these seeds are all retarded looking. I have them in a sock tied in a knot. Had them for a decade. Pulled six out and they popped and started growing like it fucking MATTERED.

Alpha shit doesn't even have the vigor to be alive.

We want seeds that tell you from the moment they show up..WE WANNA GROW INTO TALL DANK MONSTERS.

That is what Jilly or Timewreck or Space Dog or Cuvee or Dr Who or Qush or Chernobyl or any others of Subs stuff I have popped. They all wanna grow outta the house and into the yard. Most of his stuff I have grown outdoors because it does so well up to first week of October...then dew point nights just suck.

Seeds should be vigorous within the first 24 hours. They should not require surgery and intensive care to survive.

I would like to grow some Alpha that is actually ready to go...not ready to die.

The combos sounded so fun.

Come on Jay...pony up. Prove me that my interest in you is wrong. don't give me new beans to work with.

Forever you guys will have shied away from a challenge from someone who has no economic interest in the outcome.

I am just interested in proving the results of the words spoken by parties about how good their genes are.

Gotta get to the living stage before I can even judge that you guys are in the plant business.

weedlaw

And that is all that needs to be said! My time and money are too important for that BS.

i camped forever on jackpot royale at the tude. only pack of anything not bodhi or hazeman id ever bought.
i popped all. none cracked.
i wrote jay. my replacements should be here in my mailboxx today!!!! if it wasnt for LVPK id have never bought any.
i thought he was subs old apprentice.

Ive ran cuts of his omega dawg, chedarwurst, dawgfather, n snow dizzle. Had no problem marketing their gear but I think its b grade imo. I haven't done a lot of tga but did love the qrazy train n Chernobyl and I like that he's on the west coast. I reversed the Chernobyl on about 10 strains and as im running through the crosses the Chernobyl is present in about 80% of off spring.

You have put a lot of time in their gear. I hope you get the results for the investment.

Even though I was instructed on how to reverse pollinate I felt like I was fucking up somewhere but everything is looking kosher on the first 5 that ive popped, not 1 male flower. Im leaning towards the blue magoo x Chernobyl myself but its still testing. Also in testing are Chernobyl x kens gdp, querkle, atf, pit bull n kandy kush

Congrats on the cross pollinating. It is something many want to try but are unwilling to sacrifice the time and space. If itcall works out you will be a proud papa.

Thanks man, I just got a small 2x2x3 tent n put it in my veg room corner. I figured its just plants having sex so I dont need ,a big light or big plants. Just need pollen donors, winining cuts and about 2 months.

Im flip flopping my tent between reversals and regular pollination

Next round (going to flower next week) is 4 orange super skunk f1's in with gsc, huckleberry kush, raspoberry kush, dirty girl, trainwreak, pure purple Afghan, dark cherry og, n maybe something else, also taking the Orange super skunk to an f2. Gotta roll the dice as much as I can. Just started a few las vegas huckleberry kushs n all the mendo purps x pitbull's I popped are sprouted.

mark. u oregon family dawg? supp with those huckleberry and raspberry cutts?
huckleberry some oregon heritage shit right there!!!

Yup ive got a couple cuttings backed up of each. the raspberry kush actually grows like s raspberry bush as I saw one for the first time at my buddies last week, my market digs the raspberry so im growing with it again. The huckleberry kush cut I got in Seattle grows like blue dream but takes the hickleberry left turn. Was gonna get a pack from dynasty so I can see if it really is the huckleberry.

Im from sw Washington close to the hub city between Seattle n Portland and have friends/vendors in both spots. Both areas are known for their great herb so I crab cuts every week n dive in head first. I do love Oregon though. Trying to get my buddies to grow a pair n hit the upper Clackamas down there next week

I gotta pick my jeep up in s.e. Portland Wednesday or Thursday. If your free n wanna run either of those I can throw em in a a shoe box or something n bring em @scrapmapple

anyone else have customer service issues with AK? dude seems to be a real ego trip

Ran 4 packs of alpha gear and not one keeper a couple yrs back. Did get 80% germ rate.