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Hey everyone
I have a question that I’m sure has been answered, just can’t find a good post on the topic. The problem I’m having is my extractor won’t take very much butane. I pull a vacuum and allow to chill for several hours with dewaxing column filled with dry ice/acetone. When I introduce butane (420ml cans), I can only fit about 3 before the extractor won’t take anymore. Seeing how I fit roughly 10oz of flower in the extractor, I should require a lot more butane. I wasn’t even able to use the whole third can before the the pressure equalized and the pressure in the can wasn’t enough to overcome the pressure in extractor. What I ended up doing was basically run it as an open column extractor after the pressure equalized. Where am I going wrong? How could I get more in under pressure?
something I haven’t tried; on one “how to” the author advised to pull a vacuum on the extractor for at least 15 minutes. I reached -30 (my gauge only goes that low) very quickly and therefore didn’t pull vacuum for more than 2-3 minutes because I saw no point, the extractor was at full vacuum. Should I try pulling vacuum for an extended period?
Also some notes to add. I cooled my butane in the freezer overnight, and then had them sitting in a dry ice/acetone bath for maybe 30 minutes prior to using. So I know the butane was very cold. The extractor itself was extremely cold as well, beyond what my thermometer could read (I think mine goes to -50F) so vaporization of the butane shouldn’t be the problem
I appreciate all the tips! However, I’m running a closed column extractor with no recorders tank. Just a pressurized open blast essentially. I can’t freeze my extractor because it doesn’t fit in my freeze. I do freeze the material first, put it in the extractor, load the dewaxing column and let everything deep freeze for 2-3 hours. So in theory everything should be iccceeeee cold. Hard to say what actual temps are. I am able to insert a temperature probe in the chamber through the valve, and get “lo” meaning it’s below the -50F my thermometer reads. So I really don’t think the temperature is the problem :/ this will be my third run though so still dialing things in.
I take loooootttssss of precautions. The biggest one being I do it all outside in the open air, never inside. Spark resistant clothing, no electronics nearby, shoot I don’t even do a heat plate for the hot water purge, just heat my water in the house and continuously change it out as needed (keep it between 130-170)
This is the extractor I’m running;
ABLAZE Stainless Steel 265-350 Gram Closed Column Tube with Outer Sleeve and Tripod
Capacity:265-350 Gram Tube With Outer Sleeve Viton Gasket w/ Stainless Screen (150 Micron) Large Silicone Matablazecustom.com
So no recovery tank. Just a simply blasting colum with dewaxing sleeve.
I can fit three cans, but shouldn’t I be able to fit a lot more? If I manage to fit 200-300g of material, at 1 can per oz shouldn’t I be hitting closer to 10 cans or so?
Also upgraded the above extractor to include a pressure gauge, and a 50micron filter rather than the 150. The next upgrade will be a cooling/condensing coil for the butane to ensure it’s as cold as possible. For now all I have to work with is butane in the freezer, I had not heard that’s a no no but I’ll stop doing it. What do you think about butane cans sitting in a dry ice slurry? I did this on the last run because I had extra dry ice that was going to go to waste. It was only about 3” deep so the can wasnt very submerged at all, but did seem to cool them quite a bit.
So do you not cool the butane at all? You’ve got a much nicer set up than I, do you have an inline cooler or just run warm butane?
By it will never happen- you referring to the 1 can/ oz target? I’m thinking my best bet would be what I did last time. Put in what I can, then run as an open blast for the remaining cans.
OR
Pressurize what cans I can fit, drain it off. Pull vacuum (*bad idea*??) introduce another 3 cans, drain, repeat. I say bad idea because In theory there is high levels of butane still in the extractor, could I safely pull a vacuum on that or do I run the risk of an explosive death? I know in the vacuum chamber I pull of trace amounts of butane but I worry the higher concentration could ignite
So this is probably not the right way of doing it but it is a way of doing it fill your container up with product add cans of butane until full attached lid and other assorted fittings probably going to get screamed at on here for that one but seems to be working for meHey everyone
I have a question that I’m sure has been answered, just can’t find a good post on the topic. The problem I’m having is my extractor won’t take very much butane. I pull a vacuum and allow to chill for several hours with dewaxing column filled with dry ice/acetone. When I introduce butane (420ml cans), I can only fit about 3 before the extractor won’t take anymore. Seeing how I fit roughly 10oz of flower in the extractor, I should require a lot more butane. I wasn’t even able to use the whole third can before the the pressure equalized and the pressure in the can wasn’t enough to overcome the pressure in extractor. What I ended up doing was basically run it as an open column extractor after the pressure equalized. Where am I going wrong? How could I get more in under pressure?
something I haven’t tried; on one “how to” the author advised to pull a vacuum on the extractor for at least 15 minutes. I reached -30 (my gauge only goes that low) very quickly and therefore didn’t pull vacuum for more than 2-3 minutes because I saw no point, the extractor was at full vacuum. Should I try pulling vacuum for an extended period?
So this is probably not the right way of doing it but it is a way of doing it fill your container up with product add cans of butane until full attached lid and other assorted fittings probably going to get screamed at on here for that one but seems to be working for me
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