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Anyone know what caused this? Cherry Punch F1

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We have quite a few Cherry Punch F1's and I know they are sensitive to food so they are just in Happy Frog. This issue on one of them does not look like nute burn.
 

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What's the PH of your water? Soil should be 6,5. Coco Coir 6,0.

Could also be CalMag issues, imo.
 
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What's the PH of your water? Soil should be 6,5. Coco Coir 6,0.

Could also be CalMag issues, imo.
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So... we started with tap water on all strains (Moby Dick, Malana Cream, Cherry Punch F1, Critical Purple Kush, and 1 Zkitlles). Our pH levels were very high at one point (9!) We have since switched to purified Nursery water and added Espoma Soil Acidifier. The pH is down to around 7 now.
 
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What kind of light are you using, and how intense / close?
 
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What kind of light are you using, and how intense / close?
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BESTVA 2024 Newest Upgrade DC2000 Led Grow Light with High Yield Diodes Full Spectrum LED Grow Lights for Indoor Plants Greenhouse Veg (2 of them) Aprx. 20 - 24 " high from the tops​

 
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Im going along the lines of your light is too intense. It may also be that tip sat in the soil directly causing it.
 
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BESTVA 2024 Newest Upgrade DC2000 Led Grow Light with High Yield Diodes Full Spectrum LED Grow Lights for Indoor Plants Greenhouse Veg (2 of them) Aprx. 20 - 24 " high from the tops​

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The reason why I'm guessing light is if you look at the tips of the new leaves they look bleached.
 
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I think, it's the ph. Try to fix it.
 
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The reason why I'm guessing light is if you look at the tips of the new leaves they look bleached.
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Thank you. I am going to go and tend to them today. I'm thinking of raising the lights and I also have pH balancer ( see photo). I will update once I'm done.
 

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Thank you. I am going to go and tend to them today. I'm thinking of raising the lights and I also have pH balancer ( see photo). I will update once I'm done.
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PH OF 9 IS VERY HARD. (dam caps lock) filter your tap water (RO) or just use bottle water here on out.
 
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We have quite a few Cherry Punch F1's and I know they are sensitive to food so they are just in Happy Frog. This issue on one of them does not look like nute burn.
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This is our indoor set up:
8 foot by 4 foot tent -
-VIVOSUN S848 4x8 Grow Tent, 96"x48"x80" High Reflective Mylar with Observation Window and Floor Tray for Hydroponics Indoor Plant for VS4000/VSF4300
-VIVOSUN Air Filtration Kit R8 8″, Inline Fan R8 with Variable Speed Controller, Thermometer, Carbon Filter & Ducting Combo
- (2x) BESTVA 2024 Newest Upgrade DC2000 Led Grow Light with High Yield Diodes Full Spectrum LED Grow Lights for Indoor Plants Greenhouse Veg Bloom Light Hydroponic Grow Lamp
-SOIL = Espoma Organic Seed Starter Premium Potting Soil Mix (seedlings), FoxFarm Happy Frog Potting Soil (after transplant into 1G)
-STRAINS = (regular) Moby Dick, (regular) Malana Cream, (feminized) Cherry Punch F1, (feminized) Critical Purple Kush, and (feminized) Zkittles
-ADDITIONAL NUTRIENTS = i49 Germ Genie
-pH BALANCERS = Espoma Soil Acidifier, Bloom City Adjuster Kit
-HUMIDITY CONTROL = Dehumidifier, Portable Small Humidifier
-AIR FLOW = 12" Oscillating fan, (2x) 4" Straight line fans (positioned)
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As a side note when it comes to pH, it's not really a make or break for those of us who grow in soil to hit perfect range. Hydro and Coco is a different story but I water all of mine with tap water. It will test at around 7.0 on a consistent basis. The only time that I would pH my nutrient solution is when I was using Armor Si which would raise the pH to around 8.0-8.5.

 
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Another possible cause of leaf-tip chlorosis or necrosis is when the VPD is too high. That happens when the temperature is too high or the humidity is too low.
 
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I just looked up the pH of the tap water in my city, and it is "between 7.3 and 7.6"
 
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I just looked up the pH of the tap water in my city, and it is "between 7.3 and 7.6"
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That's not bad, and kinda typical. Ours has been 7.6 every time I tested it.
 
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Also could just be a simple as that leaf tip was resting in the dirt wasn’t able to transpire correctly
 
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Another possible cause of leaf-tip chlorosis or necrosis is when the VPD is too high. That happens when the temperature is too high or the humidity is too low.
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Im going along the lines of your light is too intense. It may also be that tip sat in the soil directly causing it.
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Definitely could be a culprit.
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Im going along the lines of your light is too intense. It may also be that tip sat in the soil directly causing it.
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I agree for sure
The fact that it’s on one of the lowest leaves and it’s only one I really think it was just resting in the soil, but at the same time that plant is starting to lighten up a good deal So I’m inclined to lead towards the light being a little too hot and a little too close maybe a little bit too much output Suggesting cal mag? Early for that I think. This thing is barely just in the veg as it is
 
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Another possible cause of leaf-tip chlorosis or necrosis is when the VPD is too high. That happens when the temperature is too high or the humidity is too low.
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Thank you. Along the way we had the Inline exhaust fan on high and then the humidity dropped to, around 43% for a few days (we are not living at the location). We added a humidifier, and are currently running at about 77° and 81% Humidity (the Malana's really enjoy that now)
 

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We have quite a few Cherry Punch F1's and I know they are sensitive to food so they are just in Happy Frog. This issue on one of them does not look like nute burn.
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UPDATE: I raised the lights up and transplanted 10 of them from 1g to 5g. Still a long way to go
 

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