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I tried to tell ya - to much food! Look at the rest of your plants that dark green is the start of nitrogen tox if your not careful the others will end up just the same

anthem is a much better teacher than me, I would rinse and recharge as suggested
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Lol none of you guys have even read any of my replies I guess… ITS YELLOW FROM BEING TO CLOSE TO THE LIGHT. The other plants have only had food mixed into the soil so they are no where near “overfed” they might look darker compared to the yellow one but you seem to comment not knowing anything lol do me a favour and spare me your “knowledge”
 
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I tried to tell ya - to much food! Look at the rest of your plants that dark green is the start of nitrogen tox if your not careful the others will end up just the same

anthem is a much better teacher than me, I would rinse and recharge as suggested
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If you think that’s dark green nearing tox your yields are probably shit. I was getting 4-6 ounces a plant from autos from a shit light and soil and food. I’ve made every upgrade I possibly could which is going to skyrocket my yields. Everytime I make a thread on this forum I get all these people telling me either wrong info or no info at all… I will stick to googling my issues it has only done me good in the past and whenever I come to this site for solutions it ends up getting worse
 
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More info brother- lights ? Nutes? Feeding habits? Ph in? Ph out? These are some things they will need /want to get ya good answers

While plant pics would be nice as well

if I had to guess I’d say she’s prolly locked up and not takin up nutes but really really just a educated guess with out more info
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You tried to tell me…. Hahaha like I said ppm was 700 and ph out 6-7.. proves the issues you thought were there arent. I’ve continuously told you it’s from the light being to close lol feel sorry for anyone you’ve given advice to
 
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This thread is asking if they are burns or deficiencies and nobody had one word to say about it only about it’s hungry appearance which I didn’t need info on
 
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Everytime I make a thread on this forum I get all these people telling me either wrong info or no info at all…
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Well, not everyone was giving you wrong info. One person replied it was light stress, and explained why. Just sayin'.
 
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No not everyone on this thread but pretty much every separate thread I get info that is clearly not right.. and I’m obviously here to increase my growing skills lol just need a site where everyone knows what they are doing.. not one where any person can give any info that leads to a lot of Mis information
 
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Sorry for being such a grump lol not in the best mood. Shouldn’t be taking it out on anyone else
 
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let’s not get nasty in here..
 
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Sorry for being such a grump lol not in the best mood. Shouldn’t be taking it out on anyone else
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Sorry you think I’m completely wrong good luck I’m out - I’m sticking too it’s not just light stress - I know what I’d do in my grow, You do you brother
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Sorry you think I’m completely wrong good luck I’m out - I’m sticking too it’s not just light stress - I know what I’d do in my grow, You do you brother
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Well I’ll be sure to let you know how things turn out with simply backing off the light and feeding more lol
 
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You asked for info, people offered their opinion as you asked but you get extra negative because its not exactly how you wanted that info phrased...weird. To me the replies and opinions are based on experience so they may OR may not be valid but those who mentioned overfeeding were saying that because if overfed it can lead to WHAT YOU ASKED ABOUT WHICH WAS DEFICIENCY! Overfeeding can create a hot soil which will lockout the stuff your plant does need and cause it to show symptoms like the ones you posted...idk if you've read the MULTIPLE replies suggesting you "back the lights off" but I know i added that into my reply AFTER reading others tell you to raise them up off the plant. THERES LOTS OF KNOWLEDGE OFFERED TO YOU IN THIS POST, I took some from it so rather than be mean or rude, maybe be thankful these people took time out of their day to comment on your post, and if you knew it was light burn, then why ask for opinions? If it wasnt that you needed help and you just wanna post pics or comment, I'll throw ya a laughy face or two as long as you try to be nice.
 
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Does not look like light burn but a nutrient problem.
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If you think that’s dark green nearing tox your yields are probably shit. I was getting 4-6 ounces a plant from autos from a shit light and soil and food. I’ve made every upgrade I possibly could which is going to skyrocket my yields. Everytime I make a thread on this forum I get all these people telling me either wrong info or no info at all… I will stick to googling my issues it has only done me good in the past and whenever I come to this site for solutions it ends up getting worse
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If you are doing that well with Autos and bad lights you are a way better grower than I am. I have a really hard time getting 5 zips off of a top quality lights, great genetics, co2, and full environmental controls. But than again I do not have one of those new math ways of figuring out weights. The only thing that gets counted is the finished fully trimmed buds.
You have a nutrient problem regardless of what you may think. It is an imbalance caused by what. I am not 100 percent sure. But a couple things to consider. Happy Frog is precharged with nutrients to go with your set up about 4 weeks. After than the nutrients in the soil should be gone. This is my understanding of Happy Frog. Than you added the worm casings which I have never amended amended soil. Further requires additional information to figure out how that affects the plants uptake. There have been several others come to this site using that nutrient line with similar problems.
Moving the light away from the plant does more than just fix the light burn you are claiming. It will slow down the plants nutrient uptake and allow the plant a moment to try and catch up on the nutrients it is lacking. Further @Monshman is correct there is something going on with your fan leaves on the balance of the plants that are not yellow. Notice the dark green and purple hue. That is a sign of Nitrogen Toxicity.
But by all means go about how you feel best. I will stick to my recommendation. Flush the plant and just give it water for a few days. Lastly, just because the PPM is 700 coming out that does not mean it is a balanced 700. Meaning the purple on the yellow leaves is a nutrient uptake issue. What is causing the problem is not the lights which I would be really surprised in they are in fact 450 watts.
 
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You asked for info, people offered their opinion as you asked but you get extra negative because its not exactly how you wanted that info phrased...weird. To me the replies and opinions are based on experience so they may OR may not be valid but those who mentioned overfeeding were saying that because if overfed it can lead to WHAT YOU ASKED ABOUT WHICH WAS DEFICIENCY! Overfeeding can create a hot soil which will lockout the stuff your plant does need and cause it to show symptoms like the ones you posted...idk if you've read the MULTIPLE replies suggesting you "back the lights off" but I know i added that into my reply AFTER reading others tell you to raise them up off the plant. THERES LOTS OF KNOWLEDGE OFFERED TO YOU IN THIS POST, I took some from it so rather than be mean or rude, maybe be thankful these people took time out of their day to comment on your post, and if you knew it was light burn, then why ask for opinions? If it wasnt that you needed help and you just wanna post pics or comment, I'll throw ya a laughy face or two as long as you try to be nice.
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Lol what the fuck? I know what the yellowing is from… the whole point of this is to figure out what the burns or deficiencies are and everyone is still focused on the yellowing and I keep telling you that’s not what I need information on… it’s the burns or deficiencies!!
 
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Does not look like light burn but a nutrient problem.

If you are doing that well with Autos and bad lights you are a way better grower than I am. I have a really hard time getting 5 zips off of a top quality lights, great genetics, co2, and full environmental controls. But than again I do not have one of those new math ways of figuring out weights. The only thing that gets counted is the finished fully trimmed buds.
You have a nutrient problem regardless of what you may think. It is an imbalance caused by what. I am not 100 percent sure. But a couple things to consider. Happy Frog is precharged with nutrients to go with your set up about 4 weeks. After than the nutrients in the soil should be gone. This is my understanding of Happy Frog. Than you added the worm casings which I have never amended amended soil. Further requires additional information to figure out how that affects the plants uptake. There have been several others come to this site using that nutrient line with similar problems.
Moving the light away from the plant does more than just fix the light burn you are claiming. It will slow down the plants nutrient uptake and allow the plant a moment to try and catch up on the nutrients it is lacking. Further @Monshman is correct there is something going on with your fan leaves on the balance of the plants that are not yellow. Notice the dark green and purple hue. That is a sign of Nitrogen Toxicity.
But by all means go about how you feel best. I will stick to my recommendation. Flush the plant and just give it water for a few days. Lastly, just because the PPM is 700 coming out that does not mean it is a balanced 700. Meaning the purple on the yellow leaves is a nutrient uptake issue. What is causing the problem is not the lights which I would be really surprised in they are in fact 450 watts.
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The purple you are seeing in the pictures are actually red in person. I have a watt meter it reads 460 actual watts at 100%
 
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Lol what the fuck? I know what the yellowing is from… the whole point of this is to figure out what the burns or deficiencies are and everyone is still focused on the yellowing and I keep telling you that’s not what I need information on… it’s the burns or deficiencies!!
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Ok last post for me here - the yellow leaves turnin purple and the burnt ends - are exactly what everyone is addressing - if it was caused by the light only don’t you think you would have more damage in other plants?
Leds won’t penetrate to burn the leaves that far down the plant ! It’s a definite uptake issue

Leaves don’t pray when they at are light stressed , they shy away , roll up point down . Tacoing can be from several things from light to humidity to ph

it’s frustrating we are just trying to help ya sorry you do t believe us - keep on doin what your doin and you will learn! Each grow will get better

Be sure to take a couple pics in a week or two so we can see the progress
 
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It’s this simple. With a 460 watt actual power light being ten inches away from the plant and it being directly in the middle recieved waaay more light than it should have got. Forcing it to eat a hell of a lot in a short amount of time. Causing the plant to yellow and either burn or be deficient as a result. There are many ways a plant can be yellow and everyone has their own opinion. But I know my grow and this is the problem without a doubt. I am aware there is a nutrient problem that’s why I’m here… trying to figure out what kind of nutrient problem…
 
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Ok last post for me here - the yellow leaves turnin purple and the burnt ends - are exactly what everyone is addressing - if it was caused by the light only don’t you think you would have more damage in other plants?
Leds won’t penetrate to burn the leaves that far down the plant ! It’s a definite uptake issue

Leaves don’t pray when they at are light stressed , they shy away , roll up point down . Tacoing can be from several things from light to humidity to ph

it’s frustrating we are just trying to help ya sorry you do t believe us - keep on doin what your doin and you will learn! Each grow will get better

Be sure to take a couple pics in a week or two so we can see the progress
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It didn’t affect the other plants because it was the only plant that was ten inches away… the rest are smaller…. That far down the plant?? Only the top twelve inches of the plant are yellowing and even looking more green already… it’s not that I don’t believe you guys it’s that I know my grow and you guys don’t..
 
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All I can do is prove myself with future pictures
 
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Well being that you're so sure about it, Id assume you're savy with other topics also...whats the circumference of jupiters 2nd moon on tuesdays? Also ive been thinking of bringing "the cats pajamas" back into style, thoughts?
 
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Well being that you're so sure about it, Id assume you're savy with other topics also...whats the circumference of jupiters 2nd moon on tuesdays? Also ive been thinking of bringing "the cats pajamas" back into style, thoughts?
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Lol pro
 
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