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Are these burns or deficiencies?

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The purple you are seeing in the pictures are actually red in person. I have a watt meter it reads 460 actual watts at 100%
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You bet and the Gavita 1700e I am running are actually putting out 1800 watts on the same watt meter
 
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It didn’t affect the other plants because it was the only plant that was ten inches away… the rest are smaller…. That far down the plant?? Only the top twelve inches of the plant are yellowing and even looking more green already… it’s not that I don’t believe you guys it’s that I know my grow and you guys don’t..
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Light burn 10" down, not likely. Maybe you should consider changing the title of your thread from a question about either light burn or Nutrient Def. to Hey this is light burn and I moved my light to make it go away. I would assume you will be back and showing us some photos of the plants and them getting better because the plant is not up taking as much food because you have moved the light further away from the plant and it has magically returned to its normal self. But the minute you drop that light back down and start growing again the same thing is going to happen. Good Luck with your grow.
 
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Light burn 10" down, not likely. Maybe you should consider changing the title of your thread from a question about either light burn or Nutrient Def. to Hey this is light burn and I moved my light to make it go away. I would assume you will be back and showing us some photos of the plants and them getting better because the plant is not up taking as much food because you have moved the light further away from the plant and it has magically returned to its normal self. But the minute you drop that light back down and start growing again the same thing is going to happen. Good Luck with your grow.
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Why would I have any reason to bring the light closer again? Lol that’s inviting the problem back… the whole point I have failed to get across is that you’ve been telling me the causes.. the why it is happening and I never wanted that information. All I needed is the WHAT the (red) deficiencies or burns are
 
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Light burn 10" down, not likely. Maybe you should consider changing the title of your thread from a question about either light burn or Nutrient Def. to Hey this is light burn and I moved my light to make it go away. I would assume you will be back and showing us some photos of the plants and them getting better because the plant is not up taking as much food because you have moved the light further away from the plant and it has magically returned to its normal self. But the minute you drop that light back down and start growing again the same thing is going to happen. Good Luck with your grow.
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And I don’t know who started saying light burn and I happened to mimic it back. I don’t think it’s light burn it was just to close giving it to much to handle so it ate and ate and ate..
 
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Light burn 10" down, not likely. Maybe you should consider changing the title of your thread from a question about either light burn or Nutrient Def. to Hey this is light burn and I moved my light to make it go away. I would assume you will be back and showing us some photos of the plants and them getting better because the plant is not up taking as much food because you have moved the light further away from the plant and it has magically returned to its normal self. But the minute you drop that light back down and start growing again the same thing is going to happen. Good Luck with your grow.
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What the hell are you saying of course the plant will go back to normal after the lights height being corrected… CAUSE THATS THE ISSUE LOL! So yea you will be seeing those pics cause it proves me right.. if it was what you guys were saying it was it would be locked out and have shit results
 
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You bet and the Gavita 1700e I am running are actually putting out 1800 watts on the same watt meter
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Maybe get a non faulty meter? Lol or sounds like you got one that measures lumens or something too lol cause the meter will say what the actual wattage is listed on every item that is sold. Mine has been exact readings everything I used it on
 
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And I don’t know who started saying light burn and I happened to mimic it back. I don’t think it’s light burn it was just to close giving it to much to handle so it ate and ate and ate..
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Your mastery of the english language is remarkable and you're a methodical genius pertaining to all things growing. Hail ye who plantith and burnith, may his crops always be as crispy and crunchy as his bountiful bacon breakfast!
 
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Your mastery of the english language is remarkable and you're a methodical genius pertaining to all things growing. Hail ye who plantith and burnith, may his crops always be as crispy and crunchy as his bountiful bacon breakfast!
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Finally someone says something worth saying good on u
 
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My plant is turning yellow from being hungry but at the same time has what I thought was burns. Then someone said it looks like cal def. would like to have a few more opinions before I commit to buying more products and potentially screwing things up. Is it to much or to little? Thanks
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I'm still pretty new at this but have some gardening experience. I cant narrow it down but suspect a few things.

1. Based on what you said about your lights I think they should be 24-30 inches above your plants.
2. If you are using a good soil, not coco, reduce your nutes by 75%. Your soil will have some nutes.
3. Make sure you are filtering your water, no straight tap water, and make sur your PH is to around 6.2 to 6.5
 
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Does not look like light burn but a nutrient problem.

If you are doing that well with Autos and bad lights you are a way better grower than I am. I have a really hard time getting 5 zips off of a top quality lights, great genetics, co2, and full environmental controls. But than again I do not have one of those new math ways of figuring out weights. The only thing that gets counted is the finished fully trimmed buds.
You have a nutrient problem regardless of what you may think. It is an imbalance caused by what. I am not 100 percent sure. But a couple things to consider. Happy Frog is precharged with nutrients to go with your set up about 4 weeks. After than the nutrients in the soil should be gone. This is my understanding of Happy Frog. Than you added the worm casings which I have never amended amended soil. Further requires additional information to figure out how that affects the plants uptake. There have been several others come to this site using that nutrient line with similar problems.
Moving the light away from the plant does more than just fix the light burn you are claiming. It will slow down the plants nutrient uptake and allow the plant a moment to try and catch up on the nutrients it is lacking. Further @Monshman is correct there is something going on with your fan leaves on the balance of the plants that are not yellow. Notice the dark green and purple hue. That is a sign of Nitrogen Toxicity.
But by all means go about how you feel best. I will stick to my recommendation. Flush the plant and just give it water for a few days. Lastly, just because the PPM is 700 coming out that does not mean it is a balanced 700. Meaning the purple on the yellow leaves is a nutrient uptake issue. What is causing the problem is not the lights which I would be really surprised in they are in fact 450 watts.
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Happy frog soil has .60-.05-.10 npk there’s no way that’s suppose to last 4 months
 
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there’s a few issues i see in the photos, which if not dealt very soon it will ruin your final product.
why don’t ya post a full canopy picture from above and a couple from the sides, one of which showing the whole grow with lights, fans, equip.., etc.
 
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Happy frog soil has .60-.05-.10 npk there’s no way that’s suppose to last 4 months
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he said 4 weeks and yes it would be depleted by than, green gaia takes up too 10 days to be effective and worm castings can take up to a month before being available to the plant.,
seems to me from reading the thread you don’t want help, you seem to know everything already and to me your issues are all newbie mistakes, most people here are forgiving and will give you a chance to learn instead of being defensive..
these people are trying to help and give you advice, all of which may not be correct but that’s why you give it a few days on here, so we can help you figure it out.. like i said you have a few issues and your half way or so through flowering, so kinda late to be fixing stuff now.. those issues are not new/recent.. you should of seen these signs way earlier..
 
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there’s a few issues i see in the photos, which if not dealt very soon it will ruin your final product.
why don’t ya post a full canopy picture from above and a couple from the sides, one of which showing the whole grow with lights, fans, equip.., etc.
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Sigh all I wanted to know is what these are and nobody even attempts to tell me only trying to tell me how they got there… I’m very stubborn I have had very good results in the past and I will make mistakes and learn from them.. I feel very strongly I know what is wrong and if I’m wrong I’m wrong I will make the adjustments but until then all I want to know is what the discolourations are which are not purple I’ve said many times it is red in person
 
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Sigh all I wanted to know is what these are and nobody even attempts to tell me only trying to tell me how they got there… I’m very stubborn I have had very good results in the past and I will make mistakes and learn from them.. I feel very strongly I know what is wrong and if I’m wrong I’m wrong I will make the adjustments but until then all I want to know is what the discolourations are which are not purple I’ve said many times it is red in person
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genetics or the light or caused by nutrient issue
 
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he said 4 weeks and yes it would be depleted by than, green gaia takes up too 10 days to be effective and worm castings can take up to a month before being available to the plant.,
seems to me from reading the thread you don’t want help, you seem to know everything already and to me your issues are all newbie mistakes, most people here are forgiving and will give you a chance to learn instead of being defensive..
these people are trying to help and give you advice, all of which may not be correct but that’s why you give it a few days on here, so we can help you figure it out.. like i said you have a few issues and your half way or so through flowering, so kinda late to be fixing stuff now.. those issues are not new/recent.. you should of seen these signs way earlier..
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Yes my mistake I meant 4 weeks not 4 months lol. With all foods being in the 5-8-6 range I find it hard to believe less than one percent each can feed four weeks lol. And yes I know it takes time for the food to be active so I pre mixed the soil a couple weeks in advance and watered it in the pots. And honestly no there was absolutely no visible signs of any stress up until last week and it’s only three weeks into flower. I kept the humidity higher than it should have been up til flower because the rest of the plants were still real young. So I dropped the humidity 15% from 70 to 55. And yes I realize this was high for a mature plant but I had the other 8 plants to think about. So with this drop in humidity it will obviously increase nutrient uptake. Combined with the being so close to the light and right In the middle it went from barely taking in any to instantly taking way to much and within a week it drastically changed.
 
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genetics or the light or caused by nutrient issue
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For some reason I thought with such a wide range of different growers it wouldn’t be hard to identify the issue. I mean I know it can change color due to genetics and I know the light was to close and I’m almost certain it’s a nutrient issue. Just wish I could identify it so I could fix. Will buy some cal mag try a dose or two maybe will help. Although I can be a dick at times I do appreciate the opinions I’m constantly wanting to upgrade my quality much like all of you I’m sure
 
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This one is only ten inches tall northern lights three weeks into flowering also your seeing the past week of growth
 

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What the hell are you saying of course the plant will go back to normal after the lights height being corrected… CAUSE THATS THE ISSUE LOL! So yea you will be seeing those pics cause it proves me right.. if it was what you guys were saying it was it would be locked out and have shit results
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I'm seeing mites or scales on first pic. It's normal when they're flowering that the leaves start to yellow they're using up the rest of the nitrogen I would not give them any more nitrogen you don't want them dark green. Look into all natural food like wood ash, eggshells etc. I've tried everything just supplement the cow mag but I just had to go and buy it.
So if somebody's giving you an opinion or his honest opinion and his experience you're asking for help yet you're arguing with everybody that gives you an answer LOL. I've been growing 6 years and let me tell you what I've been through everything every bug every mold you name it. So if you haven't overfed them then that's not new burn it would be probably from the lights or it could use some cow mag is it burnt or just discolored? Have a good day.
 
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For some reason I thought with such a wide range of different growers it wouldn’t be hard to identify the issue. I mean I know it can change color due to genetics and I know the light was to close and I’m almost certain it’s a nutrient issue. Just wish I could identify it so I could fix. Will buy some cal mag try a dose or two maybe will help. Although I can be a dick at times I do appreciate the opinions I’m constantly wanting to upgrade my quality much like all of you I’m sure
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i hear ya, people are just trying to get info from you as with issues on a plant can be caused by different reasons and some could have different meaning but they show the same problems..
like example droopy leaves? what does it mean?
well depending it could be over or underwatering, pest, environment., etc.,
so getting a direct answer quickly is not always possible..
trust me some of the worlds best growers are on here, weather they choose to help out or not, well.,
just be patient., be friendly, like i said most people are forgiving here because we all have/had issues and we know how you feel.,
 
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Def......plants fuckin starving dood....wtf....its starving for everything....heh...that tint on edge is a P def....cause its in early flower and theres not enough of anything!....See those plants around it?...thats how that plant should of looked before you flowered her,....plants dont have the same diets or needs man...as your learning..
I didnt read anything but just looked....poor thing...feed her man!....eesh
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