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So, I looked again right before lights out last night. Still couldn't tell for sure. On three of the plants, I did find I single little oval (or at least elliptical) shaped right where everything is supposed to be. However, it is still way too small for me to see if there are going to be those two white hairs coming out of them, or if there are going to be more of those sacs coming up.
So, I guess the question I have this morning is do you usually see and know the sex of the plant before making use of SCRoG? I assume so because that would be a pain to find out it is all male and have to unweave everything to get it out. Just wanted to ask to cover all bases.
I went over some of my notes, and I am estimating that I germinated these seeds on 27 JUL, so I am guessing I am in the fifth week (since germination and put into soil). Maybe I'm just right at that cusp of things starting to become visible?
Throwing this in here, watch the stipules, those littlespikes at the crotch of a branch. Females crossover while the spikes on males point out.
Um, July 27 was like- last week. Surely you mean June?
Yes it is normal to have to wait up to 8 weeks to see the preflowers. Every strain is different, some show early and some don't. I always wait until it is very obvious because sometimes what I thought was male turns out female so, now I just wait.
This is the problem with Scrog and starting from seed. If you were running clones you would already know that they are all female and you could get set up scrog-ing early on.
I plan on running a Scrog on my next grow and I will be starting from seed. I plan on having to wait it out (up to 2 months) to know for sure the sex. In the mean time, I can do some LST training on them when they are young.
Throwing this in here, watch the stipules, those littlespikes at the crotch of a branch. Females crossover while the spikes on males point out.
Plenty of time til the pollen pods develop, weeksSo, just taking a quick look in the tent this evening, and using what you said about the stipules to look out for, I do see a pattern. The two or three plants that are taller than the rest, have the stipules either pointing out or straight up. Two of them also have these little bean looking things; just one on each side of the stem where I'm supposed to be looking. They are too small for me to see if they are Staminate Primordia or Pistillate Primordia.
Honestly, I am kind of thinking that those two or three are going to be males, but I should still have a little more time to be able to get a better idea, right?
So for the initial question from the Op is that you should see preflowers by no later than 4 weeks into veg from seed. You will need to look around the 2-3 node /leaf sets from the top /down. Look at the split of the node by the main stalk and you will either see a pistol coming out or a bead/ teardrop shape sack. As it gets older is when it looks like a cluster of bananas.
If you flip the lights into bloom and do it that way , then you have to reveg them and that adds about 3 weeks of extra veg time.
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I think it matters the growing technique. With organic soil, It takes a while.
Plenty of time til the pollen pods develop, weeks
Here's male pre-flowers. View attachment 820766
It's just my Samsung phone camera. I cropped the photo. Didn't enhance it at all. These days you cant beat a good phone cameraHere's male pre-flowers. View attachment 820766
It's just my Samsung phone camera. I cropped the photo. Didn't enhance it at all. These days you cant beat a good phone camera
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