Auto-flower/bagseed General Basic Grow Advice!

Napata · May 1, 2016

Greetings!
I'm full aware that I need better lighting and more space.
any other advice would be exceptional thanks in advance!

My setup is 8 100w cfls (2700k/6500k)
Basic reflectors and mylar walls

FFOF soil x FFBB x FFTB

Watering every week
Nutes gave twice already with 1/4 first time and full dose second.
Seem to be responding well.

I am concerned on bud production on one of my plants thats stretching. Really all OF THEM in general. I wanted the most yield with cfls. (I plan to get a 400-600 w led). The plant thats stretching I accidental burned a topped that is leaning should I leave here alone i think? I'm also really interested in the bagseed seeing it has a lot of vigor I topped it and it is so healthy could it be better than the AKR? Who knows.

I have 3 AKR. Then One bagseed. (The lighter more prominent pheno is the bagseed the rest are AKR)

3N1GM4 · May 1, 2016

23watt cfls give more lumen per watt than the 100watt ones plus you could use more lights and cover more of the plant
Getting more yield with more light is about light intensity and penetration and the only way to increase light intensity with cfls is to get more cfl bulbs and put them all around the plant.

str8smokn · May 1, 2016

If there is actually any bud that is burnt/brown I would remove it now. It's not going to regrow as it is.
If anything just move the lights closer (surrounding it),just not touching the plant.
STR8

3N1GM4 · May 1, 2016

Also think of your stems as a highway leading to your buds and the water and nutrients are the traffic that make your buds grow. You are gonna get far less traffic to your top good buds with all those side streets if you leave all that larf on the bottom. If you shave the legs and cut off all of the bottom growth leaving only the top buds then the top buds will be much much fatter.

Napata · May 1, 2016

3N1GM4 said:
23watt cfls give more lumen per watt than the 100watt ones plus you could use more lights and cover more of the plant
Getting more yield with more light is about light intensity and penetration and the only way to increase light intensity with cfls is to get more cfl bulbs and put them all around the plant.[/QUOTE
I meant to say 100w equivalent sorry there 23w actuals!

Napata · May 1, 2016

str8smokn said:
If there is actually any bud that is burnt/brown I would remove it now. It's not going to regrow as it is.
If anything just move the lights closer (surrounding it),just not touching the plant.
STR8

The stem is still attached but burnt should I cut it? (the main cola looks to be alive)

Napata · May 1, 2016

3N1GM4 said:
Also think of your stems as a highway leading to your buds and the water and nutrients are the traffic that make your buds grow. You are gonna get far less traffic to your top good buds with all those side streets if you leave all that larf on the bottom. If you shave the legs and cut off all of the bottom growth leaving only the top buds then the top buds will be much much fatter.

The rule I thought was not to prune autoflowers?????

3N1GM4 · May 1, 2016

I prune the bottom off of mine, I think the rule is not topping them because they cant fully recover before they start flowering. I think you can cut off the bottom few nodes with no problems.

str8smokn · May 2, 2016

Napata said:
The stem is still attached but burnt should I cut it? (the main cola looks to be alive)

I would cut it off if the bud is brown and burnt.
You might need some better pics..close ups.
STR8

Napata · May 3, 2016

str8smokn said:
I would cut it off if the bud is brown and burnt.
You might need some better pics..close ups.
STR8

3N1GM4 · May 3, 2016

I would grab that stem about 6 inches down from the burnt spot and pinch it and bend it over, it will keep growing but give you a more even canopy so you can get the same amount of light to the whole plant. You have to do it b4 the stem gets too hard and woody.

hawkman · May 3, 2016

100 watt cfl's can be placed any were and do work best for side lighting, ect (really brings out the side branches and really increased yields at least 40% (+)

Napata · May 3, 2016

3N1GM4 said:
I would grab that stem about 6 inches down from the burnt spot and pinch it and bend it over, it will keep growing but give you a more even canopy so you can get the same amount of light to the whole plant. You have to do it b4 the stem gets too hard and woody.

Should I still do what you suggested and prune the underdeveloped bottom/side buds or is it to late at this point?

3N1GM4 · May 3, 2016

Never too late to cut off bottom growth

Napata · May 3, 2016

3N1GM4 said:
Never too late to cut off bottom growth

Should I cut it at the very bottom??? and will the pop corn buds be something worth keeping and curing seeing how they come out?

3N1GM4 · May 3, 2016

Just dont cut the main stem, the larf is good for making concentrate but not much else. It is prone to hermie where the buds dont get good light so if you leave it you might get seeded buds. On my stretchy sativa phenos I usually just leave it because they are spread out enough to get light down there. On my short bushy indica phenos I like to cut it off because it doesnt amount to much, makes it easier to water, and gives more nutes to the top good buds.

Napata · May 3, 2016

3N1GM4 said:
Just dont cut the main stem, the larf is good for making concentrate but not much else. It is prone to hermie where the buds dont get good light so if you leave it you might get seeded buds. On my stretchy sativa phenos I usually just leave it because they are spread out enough to get light down there. On my short bushy indica phenos I like to cut it off because it doesnt amount to much, makes it easier to water, and gives more nutes to the top good buds.

Its weird bud shes afghan kush ryder and looks like a sativa im pretty sure its from transplant there are about two stems that i would get rid of of but besides that im going to keep here going. I just bent her so I think shes stressed enough?

hawkman · May 4, 2016

Napata said:
Should I cut it at the very bottom??? and will the pop corn buds be something worth keeping and curing seeing how they come out?

Remove all that is blocking or not getting light - one way around this is to move plant every day -1/2 a turn every day (more work) you will also find there is always a weak side of plants

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