If you're looking for OMRI approved bio-cides, check out Southern Ag. It's their specialty: https://southernag.com/

MIGrampaUSA said:

If you're looking for OMRI approved bio-cides, check out Southern Ag. It's their specialty: https://southernag.com/

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Very cool thanks, I feel like using my expensive inoculation product can work but is a waste if I can use some kind of bacteria blend specific to remediating stock rots and already existing disease and /or bug problems. I have recently been reading about different fungi that can kill specific bugs including termites, fire ants, mosquitoes and mites that live on bees. Really interesting stuff.

I think I found my answer, the bacteria responsible for suppressing diseases that is in my inoculant is called streptomyces griseus. Others probably have some antibiotic and anti fungal properties to them as well but this specific type of bacteria is basically designed for this purpose.

Also Bacillus Pumilus: https://www.simplyhydro.com/product...MI64SeiZWZ-gIVTRmtBh234Az_EAQYAiABEgIUk_D_BwE


These are the only products that I could find and it seems very expensive. Might be an opportunity here with these Biological Control Agents (Bio-cides)

MIGrampaUSA said:

If you're looking for OMRI approved bio-cides, check out Southern Ag. It's their specialty: https://southernag.com/

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Southern AGs website sucks and they don't have any information at all about their products.

Check this out, seems like an interesting Bio-cide for caterpillars, cheap too. The bacteria dies off after 3-20 days. So and its totally safe for food consumption, you could probably spray buds with this.
https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...&ved=0ahUKEwiwnbfsl5n6AhUKAzQIHdwmBGMQ9pwGCAU

You can find all of the information about the product on the label. Other than the species of bacteria intended for the specific application, it's no different than the one you linked.
They may not have a polished website with pretty images that convince you to buy their product, but Souther Ag has real-world results which people can vouch for in this community and probably many others.

You could consider LABS or lactobacillus as a general foliar spray. You can buy it or brew it and I believe it has an array of applications/benefits. Otherwise, I'd probably just treat for symptoms and if you know you are prone to those symptoms, then use whatever that treatment is as a preventative.

beluga said:

You can find all of the information about the product on the label. Other than the species of bacteria intended for the specific application, it's no different than the one you linked.
They may not have a polished website with pretty images that convince you to buy their product, but Souther Ag has real-world results which people can vouch for in this community and probably many others.

You could consider LABS or lactobacillus as a general foliar spray. You can buy it or brew it and I believe it has an array of applications/benefits. Otherwise, I'd probably just treat for symptoms and if you know you are prone to those symptoms, then use whatever that treatment is as a preventative.

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I just wasnt able to find any product labels on the website, its just has the name of the product and nothing else.

beluga said:

You can find all of the information about the product on the label. Other than the species of bacteria intended for the specific application, it's no different than the one you linked.
They may not have a polished website with pretty images that convince you to buy their product, but Souther Ag has real-world results which people can vouch for in this community and probably many others.

You could consider LABS or lactobacillus as a general foliar spray. You can buy it or brew it and I believe it has an array of applications/benefits. Otherwise, I'd probably just treat for symptoms and if you know you are prone to those symptoms, then use whatever that treatment is as a preventative.

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I've been doin a lot of research about different bacterias and their roles in the soil and on and in the plants. Just trying to get a better understanding of what specific bacterias do and if there is a way to use them a in a more targeted way. One in particular thats seems very promising is rhodopseudomonas palustris. I don't think any companies have yet to create a product for cannabis growers but interesting research has been done about it effects on yields and health. Its a very resilient bacteria that uses photosynthesis when in an anaerobic environment like water and uses organic and inorganic material when in an aerobic environment.

Plant probiotics, especially topical ones, are pretty new to the cannabis cultivation community as far as I've observed, so we have to borrow from more universal horticulture practices.
This obviously presents some discrepancies as there are very few produce plants whose end product is intended to smoke.

There are folks on here who are much more knowledgeable than I with organics/biodynamics/IPM, they may be able to steer you in a better direction. But my advise stands in identifying what your symptoms are and addressing them as such.
For instance, I know I'm prone to powdery mildew, so I intended to use B. amyloliquefaciens (the product MIGramps linked) in a preventative fashion until I can control my environment enough to combat the mildew that way.

beluga said:

Plant probiotics, especially topical ones, are pretty new to the cannabis cultivation community as far as I've observed, so we have to borrow from more universal horticulture practices.
This obviously presents some discrepancies as there are very few produce plants whose end product is intended to smoke.

There are folks on here who are much more knowledgeable than I with organics/biodynamics/IPM, they may be able to steer you in a better direction. But my advise stands in identifying what your symptoms are and addressing them as such.
For instance, I know I'm prone to powdery mildew, so I intended to use B. amyloliquefaciens (the product MIGramps linked) in a preventative fashion until I can control my environment enough to combat the mildew that way.

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There are many systems in the actual soil chemistry that can actually be used as a preventative for things like that. For example L amino acids greatly help the plant up take calcium which creates a stronger defense. The healthier the plant the stronger its natural defenses are which prevents the pathogens form penetrating the plants cell walls, I have seen products with B. amyloliquefaciens and I wonder about quality control and self life issues sometimes. Thats why it would be cool to see more competition in this area of cannabis or in agriculture in general.

I'm also interested in how these bacteria fill certain niches and if you can fill a niche with a beneficial bacteria that a pathogen might have filled. Also how they work together in the presence of each other and if applying single strains of bacterias versus a formulated blend of them is better.

As far as these products being safe, if they are safe enough to spray on to food I'd imagine they would be safe enough to smoke and handle. The thing I like about using these bacterias is that they are usually in transit and have blooms and die off.