connoisseurde420 said:

could anyone chime in about straining the winterized oil? it takes forever pouring just a small amount at a time, letting it filter thru and coming back to freezer to do it all over again.

skunkpharm suggests using a buchner funnel, one that uses vacuum to help speed filtering oils and whatever else. any suggestions or things I should keep in mind while buying? don't necessarily need a website but it would be nice :eek:





thanks

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Graywolf said:

I would need to know the temperature and pool depth to comment.

A vacuum purge in a thin film at 115F until the solvent bubbles stop and only the Co2 and terpene bubbles remain, is the easiest way that I know to consistently end up with shatter.

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Capulator said:

How do you know which bubbles are which?

I put water in the vac chamber to see what would happen and it just boil seemingly indefinitely.

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connoisseurde420 said:

big different sized bubbles are what you are watching. the tiny evensized bubbles are co2? released from decarbing thc.

water boils in a vac, so you're getting down far enough vac wise

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Graywolf said:

As C420 noted, the solvent bubbles are lively and uneven sized, some quite large, while the CO2 bubbles are small and fizzy, although unless you keep it stirred, some of the small bubbles will get together and produce larger bubbles.

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mmmdankbuds420 said:

Nice, Im glad I've finally met another person who has tried these two methods. Is it just me, or did you find you preferred to do the ever clear method? I will say if I let the butane boil down too much before adding ever clear the end result will be very gooey, almost like a shatter-wax hybrid. Lol. I was just reading through some of the comments and I had a buddy lose a batch of amazingly amber shatter because his pump decided to spit oil into the chamber. it was a sad sad day. Something I'm unsure of is potency of everclear. Where I'm from I can only get the 151 proof ever clear. I have always wondered if the 190 proof could make a cleaner end product? anybody have any thoughts on that one?

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TNTnall said:

Hi All, Just thought I'd add.

I have a Vacmobile 1hp, 12cfm vacuum pump. It is over kill at over $2500.00 as it is designed to infuse fiberglass boat hulls. BUT it gets the job done very quickly compared to a 3 or even 6cfm and is designed to run for hours at full vac.

I do thin film purge at approximately 3/8" layers. I do them in 10 gram batches on 100mm Pyrex petri dishes lined with parchment. I like the dishes as they really add alot of uniformity to the batches. First I vac purge my BHO at room temperature until it is stable (not creating a muffin) I then increase the heat to 110 degrees (on my material) for 30 minutes. The griddle is set to 225 degrees to get the inside of the pot and material to a consistent 110 degrees. Then give it 10 minutes of no vac. And then I do another 30 minutes of full vac. and then 10 minutes of no vac while always staying at 110 degrees. My vacuum chamber is a 6 gallon stainless stock pot with a 3/4" clear acrylic lid. Sitting on a griddle that I can dialed down to as low as 75 degrees, even though it starts out at 200 on the dial.

I have a rack inside raising the material off the bottom. Basically making it an oven. I do not like the material to sit on the direct heat. This way the heat stays consistant across the material. I do this for approximately 3 hours. During the process, even at full vac the material is crystal clear. There are some CO2 bubbles present. I pay close attention to the bubbles size and uniformity. That way the batch wont stay on the heat to long and have any chance to carboxylate. Once the batch is stable and not muffin'ing out. I am also able to stack petri dishes on each other and am able to do up to 100+ gram batches. I then let the finished product sit at room temp until cool and it is beautiful. I will upload some pics.

Below is 120 grams I was able to do at one time by stagger stacking the dishes shortly after each layer of 5 dishes stabilized (not muffin'ing) with heat. Thin film Vac purging is the trick to a nice clear uniform shatter.

Also, I get a gorgeous wax by folding these disc 4 or 5 times and continuing to vac and raise the heat to 125 degrees. The wax is VERY VERY clean if done his way. Has the best flavor profile and works great with winterized material as well.

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