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Bigger holes are much better?

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My 6+ foot plants were hard to keep an eye on. I dont want to have to use a ladder to check them. I dont want Redwoods I want pine trees. Maybe I'll go for 1 plant in a bigger hole and see what I come up with. Sounds more conservative by what you say.
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You can fold them over from the beginning! I had one that was like 3 feet off center from the center of its stock and was like 3 feet off the ground! It turned an otherwise tall strained plant that would have been 8 feet tall to around 5.5 or so feet tall. I let some of the others go and was using a later on those two plants everytime something needed to be done. Tons of weed on them things but pick the latter up put the latter down every freaking time isn’t fun.
 
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A big tote or a contractor garbage bag.
 
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i once planted outdoors in a rock hole.and 1 bag of dirt was not enough end of grow it fall full with roots
 
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I only use 15gal pots cause i'm old LOL my plants don't go over 6ft most stay around 5ft
 
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Most of the roots are near the surface. Best to dig a larger area (3-4’) shallow (12”-16” ) than a smaller area deeper. The deeper roots are thicker and will be able to get into your untilled dirt.
 
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And be sure of your hole location! Sometimes what has sun all day in June is mostly shade all day in September! Sometimes it’s nice to be able to chase the sun around!
 
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Probably too late for this year, but plant some of the mighty mustard cover crop after digging. It has deep roots and helps break up the soil. Depending on where you’re at (and if you’re growing regular seeds) might still have another 3 months before you transplant into the ground.
 
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And be sure of your hole location! Sometimes what has sun all day in June is mostly shade all day in September! Sometimes it’s nice to be able to chase the sun around!
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How do you keep potted plants from blowing over? Also i know some move pots following the sun. Do you put them on something to help move them?
 
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How do you keep potted plants from blowing over?
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Move them to a spot that's sheltered from the wind.

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Also i know some move pots following the sun. Do you put them on something to help move them?
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One of those garden wagons would be nice, but they're expensive these days.

 
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I use 30 minimum! They are pretty heavy, so they don’t blow over! And I bend so they aren’t as top-heavy! But in tens and 15s they will blow over so you have to secure them somehow when it’s windy! Or just let them lay on their side, till the event is over! I just muscle them by sliding if I’m only moving them five or 10 feet! Any longer than that I have three pieces of 2 inch PVC That I lay out and pull the pots up on, and then keep moving the piece that comes out the back, back up to the front! They Roll, pretty easy on that! A lot of that depends on your terrain! Yeah, moving 100+ pounds of plant and pot more than a few feet can be a Challenge! But not impossible! Try and avoid it!
 
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Regarding fabric pots used outside: I've read that they shouldn't be placed directly on the ground. The reason is possible infection from microorganisms in the soil. I'm not sure how much that matters, though, because I've only read about it. I put my (inside) fabric pots on a riser that allows air flow underneath the pot. I'm sure that's helpful.
 
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Move them to a spot that's sheltered from the wind.


One of those garden wagons would be nice, but they're expensive these days.

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Yeah, that would work if you can get the plants up into it. You really have to be cognizant of your back when you’re wrestling with them! Try not to do anything too stupid!
 
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Regarding fabric pots used outside: I've read that they shouldn't be placed directly on the ground. The reason is possible infection from microorganisms in the soil. I'm not sure how much that matters, though, because I've only read about it. I put my (inside) fabric pots on a riser that allows air flow underneath the pot. I'm sure that's helpful.
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I raise them off of the ground on two or three pieces of PVC sometimes! It helps with the dry back! And if I want it to dry back a little slower, I put it Directly on the ground! Never had a problem doing it! They are the same microorganisms that you would run into if you put it right in the ground! You don’t have to be as sterile outdoors! It’s very hot here, so I need complete control over the route zone! So pots it is!
 
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Try not to do anything too stupid!
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Now I’ve got to reevaluate my whole life!
 
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I think in general, the size of the pot does limit the size of the plant! Being directly in the ground, probably has a lot greater potential for a huge plant! But I will take three smaller plants over one huge plant Just for ease of maintenance! And you can work in more variety!
 
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Like all growing! You pick your poison, and then run with it! Small pots, Larger pots, or in the ground! Get them growing and deal with the problems as they arise! After one summer, you will know the pros and cons of each! Then you can tweak things for next year! Find what works best in your Climate!
 
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Phreaker And I probably only live 100 miles apart! But there’s a big difference in our climate!
 
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Also i know some move pots following the sun. Do you put them on something to help move them?
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Depends on your situation. The smaller guys can only do 3g pots, but the bigger ones can do 20-30g


 
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I’ll put casters on a wooden base to push around on my patio, but that won’t cut it on dirt.



In my experience it becomes increasing difficult to move without snapping limps once they get along in flower, especially if you’re dragging across rough terrain.
 
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I’ll put casters on a wooden base to push around on my patio, but that won’t cut it on dirt.

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In my experience it becomes increasing difficult to move without snapping limps once they get along in flower, especially if you’re dragging across rough terrain.
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And I agree on the wider, shallower holes! In my experience, 80% of the roots are in the top third of the pot! Weed is considered a shallow, rooting plant! And if the roots don’t extend into the surrounding soil, they will uproot quite easily! Sometimes the roots just get comfortable in the hole that you’ve dug because that’s where they’re getting fed and watered and don’t migrate out into the surrounding soil! Specially, if it’s hard ass soil! lol! So you might have to pound a T posts in to support the stalk! When planting in the ground!
 
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