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Icesoft · Sep 24, 2018

Black spots on leaves and on new growth .. never had this issue befor what’s happening to my ladies anyone help. They don’t wipe off or wash off

Monster762 · Sep 24, 2018

Monster762 · Sep 24, 2018

Monster762 said:
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Could be fungal too. Pics of plant or at least this new growth will help someone help you. Might be lockout on magnese too from ph
What’s your feeds.

Icesoft · Sep 24, 2018

Ph is a little high but I feed with spring water and rain water low ph in 5.5 6.5 it changes seasonally Now my soil is almost 7 ph for soil I use a mix mirical grow Organics and 1 bag seed start soil also mirical grow both bags list .03 on fert for npk the feed tiger something I’ll add a pic later but was hydro store bought I’m thinking mag or potassium deficiency hoping it’s not black spot mold in soil like rose bushes get . I can deal with fert issues but this one is new I’ve seen the nut charts and those are my guesses I’ve bought some ph down to mix in dirt but that will be later today thanks again for answering me

Icesoft · Sep 24, 2018

Was going to try to drop soul ph and Epsom salt solution on leave so they will pick up mag and sulfur thru leave till the soil levels out . I did try a soil flush with rain water yesterday hoping it helps the ph

crimsonecho · Sep 24, 2018

Icesoft said:
Ph is a little high but I feed with spring water and rain water low ph in 5.5 6.5 it changes seasonally Now my soil is almost 7 ph for soil I use a mix mirical grow Organics and 1 bag seed start soil also mirical grow both bags list .03 on fert for npk the feed tiger something I’ll add a pic later but was hydro store bought I’m thinking mag or potassium deficiency hoping it’s not black spot mold in soil like rose bushes get . I can deal with fert issues but this one is new I’ve seen the nut charts and those are my guesses I’ve bought some ph down to mix in dirt but that will be later today thanks again for answering me

In the name of science! :D They look so unhappy! Hope you can figure it out. What are your temps by the way?

Monster762 · Sep 24, 2018

Icesoft said:
Was going to try to drop soul ph and Epsom salt solution on leave so they will pick up mag and sulfur thru leave till the soil levels out . I did try a soil flush with rain water yesterday hoping it helps the ph

Yeah the one def looks unhappy
No bugs?
How often you watering? The one looks like more serious than a few spots going on. The one on the right.
I’m really seeing roots on that plant. Whether too dry too wet or something bad I’m seeing roots being where it’s at.

Icesoft · Sep 24, 2018

CrimsonEcho said:
In the name of science! :D They look so unhappy! Hope you can figure it out. What are your temps by the way?

I keep the room at 70 f to 75 f has its own ac air intake 8 in line 20 x 20 lev ten filter luckily I don’t have to worry about smell I’m in the country so the ac duct out on second floor

Icesoft · Sep 24, 2018

Monster762 said:
Yeah the one def looks unhappy
No bugs?
How often you watering? The one looks like more serious than a few spots going on. The one on the right.
I’m really seeing roots on that plant. Whether too dry too wet or something bad I’m seeing roots being where it’s at.

Icesoft · Sep 24, 2018

Zero bugs I keep a clean shop. Water when dry on top 4 in of soil or 4 oz purified water a day i think this is nut problem . just never in 25 yrs have I ever had a problem like this . right now I soaked the soil to flush but normally keep them dry I keep my soil between 3 and 5 on the little reader for wetness . I have 5 going in total only the two have issue . should I just pull those out . first the one got spots lower then the other followed a week later with on top leaves so confused also my neighbor stops in and checks on them ever after noon I’m pretty stricked shoes off hair up wash up before entering tent so on

Icesoft · Sep 25, 2018

Do y’all think I should toss them out or try and save them

Madbud · Sep 25, 2018

Icesoft said:
Do y’all think I should toss them out or try and save them

Should be able to pull the whole root mass out of the bucket to check for bugs and moisture content

Icesoft · Sep 25, 2018

Got home from work pulled both girls out zero bugs . They we just moved into the 4 gallon containers new root growth had started all roots looked white and healthy no black tips soil was wetter then we both like . but I did flush a few days ago on sat with rain water no water given since . I knocked as much moist dirt out as I could without hurting them grabbed a new tarp layed out all soil in thin layers. place fan and will let it all dry over night then add some baking soda Incase there any bacteria or fungus / mold repack girls in the morning back into there bigger containers befor work . they fit back into there 3 gallon containers for the night and it was a bad time to run out of new soil

Madbud · Sep 25, 2018

You can leave them out of the containers overnight. They love the oxygen. Google Alternaria.

Icesoft · Sep 25, 2018

Didn’t know that!!! do I just put them in one of the spill trays and they’ll be alright . At least for a night . then why when you transplant do they look sad for a day or two . but at this point I am just ganna take them back out those smaller pots and let them sprawl out like you said at this point if they don’t improve I’m just gatta take them to my neighbor in the am after replant back into there 4 gallon containers and put them on his porch to make sure my three auto fems cannt get any problems from these two .I just have never had this befor so weird but I grew in a closet or back yard in The city

Icesoft · Sep 25, 2018

Lol thanks for scaring me with the Alternaria google lol

Madbud · Sep 25, 2018

I’m not an expert, just a gardener but i pull them at night anytime they need some air. Just need a solid root ball. This one is indoors today, staying dry

Jack og · Sep 26, 2018

Rust mold, hit it with sulphur spray. Miracle grow soil is also high in nitrogen, I’d flush good and feed her a good tea, with fish emulsion , kelp meal . This will add the proper bacterial life into a very dead soil mix. I’ve had had issues with that line of soil before, now I wouldn’t touch the stuff, no sooner use mulch then that crap. Also lock out with phos deficiencies showing, so you have a soil issue.
Cal mag with new soil. And hit her with sulphur or actonivate.

Also curious what was the runoff ph? And cal mag foliar doesn’t uptake when leaves are rusty or stressed

Madbud · Sep 26, 2018

To answer your other question, i never have droopy plants after transplanting. Unlike the tree, the roots are real delicate. Make a print of the smaller container in the soil of the new one and pop it in. I leave the top half of the original pot in place, but thats me.

Jack og · Sep 26, 2018

Yea I don’t have transplant issues either, I root clones and then take. I only do monster clones, clones taken from flowering plants.

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