after researching i think i am gonna get some met52. im not playing around with these bastards. i also know that nematodes work great on them as i used them the other time i had aphids and they worked great. i just dont want to have to reapply them cause they are expensive so im hoping this met52 does the trick. according to everyone on this site that has used it that is the way to go. the sns-203 was just to at least kill as many as i could until i can get some met52.