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Can anyone help diagnose a sick plant please

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Can anyone help me diagnose my sock plants I'm in soil and feeding 600 ppm.
 

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Looks like more than one problem. Give some more details about feed water schedule and environment.
 
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Suavekasso said:
Can anyone help me diagnose my sock plants I'm in soil and feeding 600 ppm.
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Seems like a lot of N causing a mag def. Seems like maybe a K issue too...not really sure!

Does any of your fertilizers contain ammonium as a form of Nitrogen?

Are you flushing? Using organic nutes or synthetic?
 
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Seems like a lot of N causing a mag def. Seems like maybe a K issue too...not really sure!

Does any of your fertilizers contain ammonium as a form of Nitrogen?

Are you flushing? Using organic nutes or synthetic?
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Sorry to disagree but I don't see N tox.
There's no clawing and they aren't dark green.
 
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are those wires mesh and plant in direct contact ? Did you use calmag?
 
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TripsRabbit said:
Sorry to disagree but I don't see N tox.
There's no clawing and they aren't dark green.
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Where you not seeing the claw? 1st & 5th pic its clearly going on...it doesnt take N tox to give us a mag def. High levels of N put a demand on mag....yes they are dark green at the top...im no expert...

I would say too much N throwing things off especially magnesium!...i would suggest reading up on mulders chart more....also theres yellowing in the growth tips...thought that was a sign of too much N?
 
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Micros and macro are locked out, ph is probably low and nutrients likely very high.

Flush with something like recharge then feed appropriately for the media imthey are in.

What media is that?
 
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it's hard to tell. I would start by a good high ph flush or two and go from there.
 
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TripsRabbit said:
Looks like more than one problem. Give some more details about feed water schedule and environment.
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Im using FFOF SOIL

feeding every water with 600 ppm

GH FLORA MICRO 2.5 ml/gal
GH FLORA BLOOM 5 ml/gal
FLORALICIOUS + 1 ml/gal
cal mag 10 ml/gal
 
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Flexnerb said:
Seems like a lot of N causing a mag def. Seems like maybe a K issue too...not really sure!

Does any of your fertilizers contain ammonium as a form of Nitrogen?

Are you flushing? Using organic nutes or synthetic?
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I just recently did a flush and the leaves started looking this way after the flush
 
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Flexnerb said:
Seems like a lot of N causing a mag def. Seems like maybe a K issue too...not really sure!

Does any of your fertilizers contain ammonium as a form of Nitrogen?

Are you flushing? Using organic nutes or synthetic?
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I'm using synthetic nutrients. And humidity is kept between 45-50% temps are roughly 74-78 F
 
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are those wires mesh and plant in direct contact ? Did you use calmag?
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I use this chicken wire to scrog all the time. It works for me!
 
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Aqua Man said:
Micros and macro are locked out, ph is probably low and nutrients likely very high.

Flush with something like recharge then feed appropriately for the media imthey are in.

What media is that?
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This is a soil grow. I originally thought I over ferted. But the leaves aren't giving me those kind of vybz.. there's very minimal leaf tip burn
 
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This is a soil grow. I originally thought I over ferted. But the leaves aren't giving me those kind of vybz.. there's very minimal leaf tip burn
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Well they were or are overferted IMO. You cant feed 600ppm every single feed in soil IMO.

There are now root issues 100% i can tell by looking at the plant easily.

Can you pour a bit of water in and catch the runoff to test its ph and ppm?

You said you flushed... how exactly step by step did you do this?
 
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Well they were or are overferted IMO. You cant feed 600ppm every single feed in soil IMO.

There are now root issues 100% i can tell by looking at the plant easily.

Can you pour a bit of water in and catch the runoff to test its ph and ppm?

You said you flushed... how exactly step by step did you do this?
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I'm using tap water to flush ...I live in an area where the tapwater is pretty soft it comes out around 6.8 PH and 40 PPM.what I did was flush the plant with twice the amount of volume as the pots and then I mixed up a light nutrient mixture of about 200 ppm and fed the plants with that
 
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I'm using tap water to flush ...I live in an area where the tapwater is pretty soft it comes out around 6.8 PH and 40 PPM.what I did was flush the plant with twice the amount of volume as the pots and then I mixed up a light nutrient mixture of about 200 ppm and fed the plants with that
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And what was the runoff after?

Can you check to see the next time you feed?
 
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And what was the runoff after?

Can you check to see the next time you feed?
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I will test it and let you know . Thanks for your help btw
 
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Suavekasso said:
Im using FFOF SOIL

feeding every water with 600 ppm

GH FLORA MICRO 2.5 ml/gal
GH FLORA BLOOM 5 ml/gal
FLORALICIOUS + 1 ml/gal
cal mag 10 ml/gal
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Why aren't you using any grow? Those three you are using are two of the three part GH flora series and a ripening flower booster. You need to follow the directions on the bottle and get the other part of the three part nute regimen.

It's Nitrogen deficiency and probably many other deficiencies because those plants should be getting 10ml per gallon of micro, 10ml of grow and 10ml of bloom for transition to bloom. That florilicious plus is for mid to late flower if I'm not mistaken.
 
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You'll most likely need a calmag supplement or some garden gypsum and epsom salts.
 
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Why aren't you using any grow? Those three you are using are two of the three part GH flora series and a ripening flower booster. You need to follow the directions on the bottle and get the other part of the three part nute regimen.

It's Nitrogen deficiency and probably many other deficiencies because those plants should be getting 10ml per gallon of micro, 10ml of grow and 10ml of bloom for transition to bloom. That florilicious plus is for mid to late flower if I'm not mistaken.
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If thats N def why are the leaves in the top area of the 1st pic clawing and tacoing in? Wouldn't that be too much N? I think its a K antagonism occuring because of excess N..even looks kind of like the very begining of a mg def...excess N puts a demand on mg and molybdenum. At the same it antagonizes K Cu boron...so i still want to say early mg def caused by excess N....id still like to know what causes the leaves to taco under and claw like they are... excess salts?...exc N?

Im still learning..lol....outdoor veggies are so much easier
 
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