tina2017 said:

Hi!

Sorry to bother like this but I am a total outsides. Have a very sick relative and need some advice on cannabis oil. I saw your posts and I see you are very knowledgeable.


If you don't mind giving some advice, I hope you really don't as internet is polluted with so much info and I don't really know what is correct.

I have a very sick parent with brain metastases from a lung cancer. I am giving a cannabis oil for already 2 month (so far consumer 10ml) After 1 month the results were not that bad, some metastases got smaller from 1mm-5mm and some got bigger and some didn't change, however after second month most of them just got bigger few stayed the same size. Not knowing anything about cannabis oil I started to have doubts this oil is good. I have other people offering me better oil (so they say) but I really don't know how to make sure the oil I get is the real thing. A lot of people just trying to make money unfortunately.

I was told the oil should have high concentration of THC and a little less CBD and should be mixed from different cannabis and on the other hand I was told it's enough to be made from only one type of cannabis.

If you can share any beneficial knowledge with me I will be forever grateful

Best regards, Tina

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High cbd... low thc..

The primary job of CBD in the cancer cell is to disrupt the endoplasmic reticulum through wrecking of the calcium metabolism, pushing calcium into the cytosol. This always results in cell death. Another pathway for CBD to effect cancer cell death is the Caspase Cascade, which breaks down proteins and peptides in the cell. When this happens the cell cannot survive. Again, these processes are specific to cancer cells, no normal cells are affected.

Many recommend colloidal silver and good cultures in the diet also.

Best wishes

Rso is usually really dark dark green and will stain anything it touches. The best way to administer Rso for a cancer patient would be to grow a high cbd strain like charolettes web and make your own oil from the whole dried plant. Industrial hemp cbd oil is not as effective as home made rso.

tina2017 said:

Hi!

Sorry to bother like this but I am a total outsides. Have a very sick relative and need some advice on cannabis oil. I saw your posts and I see you are very knowledgeable.


If you don't mind giving some advice, I hope you really don't as internet is polluted with so much info and I don't really know what is correct.

I have a very sick parent with brain metastases from a lung cancer. I am giving a cannabis oil for already 2 month (so far consumer 10ml) After 1 month the results were not that bad, some metastases got smaller from 1mm-5mm and some got bigger and some didn't change, however after second month most of them just got bigger few stayed the same size. Not knowing anything about cannabis oil I started to have doubts this oil is good. I have other people offering me better oil (so they say) but I really don't know how to make sure the oil I get is the real thing. A lot of people just trying to make money unfortunately.

I was told the oil should have high concentration of THC and a little less CBD and should be mixed from different cannabis and on the other hand I was told it's enough to be made from only one type of cannabis.

If you can share any beneficial knowledge with me I will be forever grateful

Best regards, Tina

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I would suggest you make the oil yourself. Its very easy to make.

Start with the right strain of cannabis

What you want is a solid Indica. Indica gives both a head and a body high. You want the person to have couch lock instead of up and running around. The body heals only during sleep and relaxation.

Next look at the THC, and CBD content.

You want a moderate to high THC (20-25$

You want the CBD content as high as you can get (usually 3-5%.

THC causes Cell death of cancer and tumor cells. CBD helps the body heal.

According to Rick Simpson BOOK he recommends three Solvents.

Ethanol (Everclear)

99% isopropyl(method i use because it extracts more of the cannabinoids than Ethanol. You pay for the medicine so get ALL you can. With Ethanol my yield is 12-14%. With 99% ISO my yield is 17-24.5%

Namptha. Some Namptha has a high content carcinogens. Mr. Simpson used light Namptha not available here so NO credible comment since havent used it.

Put the herb in a container

Put both the herb andvsolvent in the freezer a few hours. This step is important. You want the trichomes go break off in the liquid.

Pour enough Solvent to cover tge ground buds and trim.

Agitate the liquid 3-5 minutes then pour the liquid though a mesh screen to seperate the herb from liquid.

Pour a little more ice cold Solvent over The herb to Wash out any cannabinoids trapped in the herb. Take a spatula or spoon to press as much liquid out of the herb as possible.

A LOT of people on YouTube heat the oil in a rice cooker to evaporate off the Solvent. I dont do that.

I set up a fan to blow across the liquid until about 90% of the Solvent is gone. I gather up tge liquid and place in a glass or metal container and set on a coffee or candle warmer abd put a termometer in the liquid abd slowly evaporate off the remaining Solvent.

Keep a close eye on the oil. If you see smoke it is too hot and breaking down the cannabinoids

When the alcohol stops boiling your done gathee the oil into syringes.

If you make the oil yourself you know what's in it, and you know you purged the Solvent as much as possible.

If i may be of further help Post a question or send me a PM. Will help any way I can

DrMcSkunkins said:

Rso is usually really dark dark green and will stain anything it touches. The best way to administer Rso for a cancer patient would be to grow a high cbd strain like charolettes web and make your own oil from the whole dried plant. Industrial hemp cbd oil is not as effective as home made rso.

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Sorry Doc but your wrong

Charlottes web is 1% THC . people with cancer needs both moderate to high THC, and High CBD.

It is the THC that kills cancer and tumor cells.

GT21 said:

High cbd... low thc..

The primary job of CBD in the cancer cell is to disrupt the endoplasmic reticulum through wrecking of the calcium metabolism, pushing calcium into the cytosol. This always results in cell death. Another pathway for CBD to effect cancer cell death is the Caspase Cascade, which breaks down proteins and peptides in the cell. When this happens the cell cannot survive. Again, these processes are specific to cancer cells, no normal cells are affected.

Many recommend colloidal silver and good cultures in the diet also.

Best wishes

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Its THC that causes Cell death of Cancer abd tumors.

tina2017 said:

Hi!

Sorry to bother like this but I am a total outsides. Have a very sick relative and need some advice on cannabis oil. I saw your posts and I see you are very knowledgeable.


If you don't mind giving some advice, I hope you really don't as internet is polluted with so much info and I don't really know what is correct.

I have a very sick parent with brain metastases from a lung cancer. I am giving a cannabis oil for already 2 month (so far consumer 10ml) After 1 month the results were not that bad, some metastases got smaller from 1mm-5mm and some got bigger and some didn't change, however after second month most of them just got bigger few stayed the same size. Not knowing anything about cannabis oil I started to have doubts this oil is good. I have other people offering me better oil (so they say) but I really don't know how to make sure the oil I get is the real thing. A lot of people just trying to make money unfortunately.

I was told the oil should have high concentration of THC and a little less CBD and should be mixed from different cannabis and on the other hand I was told it's enough to be made from only one type of cannabis.

If you can share any beneficial knowledge with me I will be forever grateful

Best regards, Tina

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I wrote an in depth reply earlier check it out.

You're right. Moderate to high THC abd high CBD.

You need both.

THC to kill cancer and tumor cells.

CBD to heal and repair the body

Wasnt charloettes web the strain that rick simpson used to make the original rso and cure his cancer?

Two.Bears said:

Its THC that causes Cell death of Cancer abd tumors.

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In 2007, McAllister published a detailed account of how cannabidiol kills breast cancer cells and destroys malignant tumors by switching off expression of the ID-1 gene, a protein that appears to play a major role as a cancer cell conductor.

The ID-1 gene is active during human embryonic development, after which it turns off and stays off. But in breast cancer and several other types of metastatic cancer, the ID-1 gene becomes active again, causing malignant cells to invade and metastasize. “Dozens of aggressive cancers express this gene,” explains McAllister. He postulates that CBD, by virtue of its ability to silence ID-1 expression, could be a breakthrough anti-cancer medication.

DrMcSkunkins said:

Wasnt charloettes web the strain that rick simpson used to make the original rso and cure his cancer?

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Nope. Charlottes web was developed fot Charlotte Figi with Dravets Syndrome. She was having 50+ Epileptic seuizures a day.

GT21 said:

In 2007, McAllister published a detailed account of how cannabidiol kills breast cancer cells and destroys malignant tumors by switching off expression of the ID-1 gene, a protein that appears to play a major role as a cancer cell conductor.

The ID-1 gene is active during human embryonic development, after which it turns off and stays off. But in breast cancer and several other types of metastatic cancer, the ID-1 gene becomes active again, causing malignant cells to invade and metastasize. “Dozens of aggressive cancers express this gene,” explains McAllister. He postulates that CBD, by virtue of its ability to silence ID-1 expression, could be a breakthrough anti-cancer medication.

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According to Rick Simpson and everything i found online it is THC that causes cancerous cells to destroy themself.

Thank you everyone for your reply, but unfortunately I don't have an option to make it myself. If it's possible to get info if it has to be a mixture off different cannabis or only one type can be good enough. Does it matter the mixture? Or it matters the extractions of THC and CBD. Thank for your reply :)

tina2017 said:

Thank you everyone for your reply, but unfortunately I don't have an option to make it myself. If it's possible to get info if it has to be a mixture off different cannabis or only one type can be good enough. Does it matter the mixture? Or it matters the extractions of THC and CBD. Thank for your reply :)

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Tina:

If you can't make the oil yourself at least go to you Tube abd watch volume 1 and 2 of Run from the cure, and the vid where Rick Simpson talks about the hazzards if the oil is not made correctly and proper strains

I do have a correction to make.

In my reply to Dr McSkunkins (SP) i said Charlottes Web was named for Charlotte Figi.

The correct answer is that strain was created by the Stanley Brother of Colorado. Since it had ultra low THC was named Hippies disappointment.

The Figi family was trying to find sonething to help their daughter.

After the Stanley brothers agreed to provide Cannabis for a child that young they made her medicine from Hippies Disappointment. The medicine reduced Charlottes seuizures to about 1 seizure a week then they renamed the strain Charlottes web after Miss Figi.

Two.Bears said:

According to Rick Simpson and everything i found online it is THC that causes cancerous cells to destroy themself.

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18025276

A good friends dad was diagnosed with cancer recently and I want to grow him some proper medicine. He is worried about being all high, he really doesn't want that haha. A friend of mine has a high cbd strain, with a percentage of thc in there as well, he's made rso before. He was actually suggesting we make a coconut oil from it and that he's heard it delivers to the body more quickly. Has anyone heard this?

I'm fascinated by this thread and I would really appreciate any and all help I could get in making proper medicine to help my friend rid his family of this awful news. I've known them for years they mean a lot to me. I really really want to help them

Gardenguy2.0 said:

A good friends dad was diagnosed with cancer recently and I want to grow him some proper medicine. He is worried about being all high, he really doesn't want that haha. A friend of mine has a high cbd strain, with a percentage of thc in there as well, he's made rso before. He was actually suggesting we make a coconut oil from it and that he's heard it delivers to the body more quickly. Has anyone heard this?

I'm fascinated by this thread and I would really appreciate any and all help I could get in making proper medicine to help my friend rid his family of this awful news. I've known them for years they mean a lot to me. I really really want to help them

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One lady with stage 4 Lung cancer used RSO but could not get up to 1 gram a day so her husband made RSO abd beeswax SUPPOSITORIES and used tge back door method as she called it, abd she could get to 1 gram a day without being high.

Just something i heard so your mileage may vary.

GT21 said:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18025276

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From what I had always read it was the cbd that encases human cells and put them at the right ph so that cancer cells could no longer grow, just like that article states.

Two.Bears said:

According to Rick Simpson and everything i found online it is THC that causes cancerous cells to destroy themself.

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I had never heard of thc having anything to do with the cancer curing aspect.

DrMcSkunkins said:

From what I had always read it was the cbd that encases human cells and put them at the right ph so that cancer cells could no longer grow, just like that article states.

I had never heard of thc having anything to do with the cancer curing aspect.

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There are studies done on hepatocellular carcinoma where thc damaged and kills cancer cells. In a metastatic tumor cbd is used to turn off replication signals. When someone has an original tumor and it breaks off and flows through the blood stream to another part of the body...you want CBD. Like the OP is trying to explain.. the problem is spreading.

In as simple a way as i can explain it
Thc is a way of dealing with the original cell.
CBD is a way of stopping cells from spreading/copying

this is why when we look for true MEDICAL strains we look for a pot plant with a good % of cbd and thc in one plant.

Nobody is wrong.. there is just more to it than just saying take thc a lot and take cbd a little. Most cbd strains have a little thc in them... not all thc strains have cbd in them.

I was still going off of the info I found out about 10 or more years ago about cbd, I had no idea it was that agressive against cancer cells.

DrMcSkunkins said:

I was still going off of the info I found out about 10 or more years ago about cbd, I had no idea it was that agressive against cancer cells.

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CBD is great stuff. Colloidal silver is great for the system also. It oxidizes all bacteria and kills it.. then you just fill your stomach back up with good bacteria (yogurt)... problem solved

Its truly amazing that our government can hold a patent on a natural gift and then throw people in jail by the millions for trying to cure themselves. Granted a lot of weed for most people is just to get high and make money. That doesnt mean we should destroy the lives and hopes of the sick and needy.