Can't quite figure out why plants die

ThatGuyInTheDesert · Feb 23, 2025

Over the past 18 months I have purchaseed about 75 to 100 seeds from Royal Queen. I have since learned that RQS sells crappy seeds, but I want to discuss my issue anyway. I am able to achive about 70% germination with RQS seeds, but that's not my biggest problem. I cannot keep my plants alive past six weeks. At six weeks, they have ALL shriveled and died. All my water, fertilizer, and soil are at 6.5 pH. I use SpiderFarmer lights and I also do some outdoor growing. It doesn't matter how much or how little I water, all plants shrivel at six weeks. What's the trick for getting past the six week hump?

Many thanks.

OldOneEye · Feb 23, 2025

It's either something you are doing or not doing or it's in the genetics.

ThatGuyInTheDesert · Feb 23, 2025

OldOneEye said:
It's either something you are doing or not doing or it's in the genetics.

Geee...ya think?

OldOneEye · Feb 23, 2025

ThatGuyInTheDesert said:
Geee...ya think?

Only you know what you are doing bud, not trying to be a smart @ss but if you are not screwing the pooch after that many seeds.........what do you think it is? You said it in the first few sentences.

Grownsince95 · Feb 23, 2025

Is that plant 6 weeks old? What's the temperature and humidity like?

ThatGuyInTheDesert · Feb 23, 2025

Grownsince95 said:
Is that plant 6 weeks old? What's the temperature and humidity like?

Yes, that plant died at six weeks. Ths is what it looked like at 8 weeks. I was hoping it would come back to life, but it did not.

Humidity 45%
Temp is 77 deegrees by day. 64 degrees at night.

Greenadian · Feb 23, 2025

We can only guess!? You will need to tell us about your lighting, environment, in a tent or room or cabinet, how ften amd how much water when feeding etc

A few more pictures will also be helpful

josefrahl · Feb 23, 2025

From the size of the plant it looks like the roots aren't developing. As in they never branch out looking for water. Usually caused when someone waters around the stem too long.

Grownsince95 · Feb 23, 2025

Did you germ the seed in the pot there or another way like paper towels etc...?

Grownsince95 · Feb 23, 2025

What's the fertilizer/soil you speak of?

ThatGuyInTheDesert · Feb 23, 2025

ThatGuyInTheDesert said:
Humidity 45%
Temp is 77 deegrees by day. 64 degrees at night.

Greenadian said:
We can only guess!? You will need to tell us about your lighting, environment, in a tent or room or cabinet, how ften amd how much water when feeding etc

A few more pictures will also be helpful

Spider Farmer lights. Homemade mylar tent. Constant fresh air flow. 77 degrees by day. 65 degrees by night. The grow envionment is pristine.
6.5 pH on everything that touches the soil. Ocean Forest soil.

It doesn't matter how much or how little I water. Result is the same.

I should be harversting buds the size of golf balls, but my plants all die at six weeks. Crappy RQS seeds, maybe?

ThatGuyInTheDesert · Feb 23, 2025

Grownsince95 said:
Did you germ the seed in the pot there or another way like paper towels etc...?

I have tried both methods and the plants still die. Using paper towel method is cool, but the sprouts die sooner than when geminated in soil.

ThatGuyInTheDesert · Feb 23, 2025

OldOneEye said:
Only you know what you are doing bud, not trying to be a smart @ss but if you are not screwing the pooch after that many seeds.........what do you think it is? You said it in the first few sentences.

Hold it....are you interested in helping, or are you here to insult folks who are looking for assistance?

Greenadian · Feb 23, 2025

Well Im not too knowledgable or experienced in true soil. I use Promix as I find lighter and easier on young plants to send out root systems.
Perhaps the size of container is too large and compacting the soil too much over the amount of times you water.

Why not try soilless mix, or adding a bunch of perlite to your soil while they are seedlings

ThatGuyInTheDesert · Feb 23, 2025

Greenadian said:
Well Im not too knowledgable or experienced in true soil. I use Promix as I find lighter and easier on young plants to send out root systems.
Perhaps the size of container is too large and compacting the soil too much over the amount of times you water.

Why not try soilless mix, or adding a bunch of perlite to your soil while they are seedlings

Growing without soil is antihetical to farming. What's a perlite?

Grownsince95 · Feb 23, 2025

Besides pH, have you tested the EC of your tap water?

IDK..your name is that guy in the desert...that pic is outside and the plant looks hot and dry and miserable... as you might expect in the

I don't see your homemade tent or setup

You also seem to really want to shit on RQS because this is the second thread in as many hours you've mentioned it

You're not going to get very far here at the Farm blaming others for your problems

ThatGuyInTheDesert · Feb 23, 2025

josefrahl said:
From the size of the plant it looks like the roots aren't developing. As in they never branch out looking for water. Usually caused when someone waters around the stem too long.

Yeah, but I can't see the roots, so I can't really tell.

ThatGuyInTheDesert · Feb 23, 2025

Greenadian said:
We can only guess!? You will need to tell us about your lighting, environment, in a tent or room or cabinet, how ften amd how much water when feeding etc

A few more pictures will also be helpful

OK...pictures of what, exactly?

ThatGuyInTheDesert · Feb 23, 2025

Grownsince95 said:
Besides pH, have you tested the EC of your tap water?

IDK..your name is that guy in the desert...that pic is outside and the plant looks hot and dry and miserable... as you might expect in the

I don't see your homemade tent or setup

You also seem to really want to shit on RQS because this is the second thread in as many hours you've mentioned it

You're not going to get very far here at the Farm blaming others for your problems

What's EC? I don't use tap water. Who said anything about shitting at RQS? And other than you, who said anything about blaming? I just need a solution to a simple problem, that's all.

You see my outdoor plant here. My tent is indoors. Do you want me to post a pic of that? It's a cool setup.

Grownsince95 · Feb 23, 2025

Troll alert delete this

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