Chlorine Remover

Seamaiden · Dec 8, 2010

The Chemistry Store dot com (I worked for Petco and know how evil they are), 2lb jar of dry sodium thiosulfate, which will dechlorinate several swimming pools-worth of water, fi' dolla.
http://www.chemistrystore.com/product.cgi?group=88788&product=88789

RockPhosphate · Dec 9, 2010

WOW!!! Thats enough for like 5 years for ALL the growers on THC Farmer!!! :)

Thanks Maiden!

With this dry stuff, do you mix like a gram p/g and then one drop p/g of that solution?

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-Phate

sincethe80s · Dec 9, 2010

i used straight tap on my last grow everything grew fine. if i use sodium thioslufate will there be a difference?

Seamaiden · Dec 9, 2010

The sodium thiosulfate is used at such low rates that I seriously doubt it would have any effect. It's safe for corals, sponges and the like, so I'm pretty certain Mary's ok with it, too.

RockPhosphate said:
WOW!!! Thats enough for like 5 years for ALL the growers on THC Farmer!!! :)

Thanks Maiden!

With this dry stuff, do you mix like a gram p/g and then one drop p/g of that solution?

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-Phate

I'd have to work the numbers, but the bottled stuff is usually a 1%-3% solution, and to dechlorinate with that you use something like 1 teaspoon/gallon (don't hold me on that, it's literally been decades since I used aquarium dechlor). If you make it into a 5% solution using distilled water, it's still going to knock out chlorine and break the chloramine bond.

When I worked at a public aquarium I literally just took some of the dry and sprinkled it over the tubs we used for bleaching stuff covered with algae.

budboy299 · Dec 13, 2010

I had this posted in another thread but as another farmer RockPhosphate pointed out...probably should be here. Just a copy and paste from online, and edited to take out the fish related information

1 drop of 10% Sodium thiosulfate solution per gallon of water will neutralize 1 ppm of chlorine.

Here is how I do this. I dissolve 29 g of Sodium thiosulfate (from a photographic supply store) in 2 liters of water. 5ml removes 1 ppm of chlorine from 10 gal of water. And since 1 ppm is the maximum you can ever find in any water supply line, you can safely assume that 5mls of stock solution will fully neutralize chlorine in 10 gal of water.

RockPhosphate · Dec 13, 2010

Is that the same rate that breaks chloramine down too?

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-Phate

deadcat · Dec 18, 2010

I'm doing hydro right now w/tap and have no problems. My tap is 30ppm.

Seamaiden · Dec 18, 2010

RockPhosphate said:
Is that the same rate that breaks chloramine down too?

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-Phate

Dosing at those rates, or lower (1%-3%) will break the bond between the chlorine and ammonia (chloramine).

RockPhosphate · Dec 18, 2010

A couple of days ago I went to the local pet and feed store and bought some of the API Tap Water Conditioner. It says on the bottle that 1 drop takes care of chlorine and three drops breaks the chloramine bond. My guess is that this stuff is mixed at 1%.

I've been working on a serious budget lately. My tap water has been a real issue trying to brew teas. Now my micro beasties are very happy! Not to mention the girls!!! I'll post a pic once the lights go on.

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-Phate

sincethe80s · Dec 19, 2010

seamaiden, just curious what would you bleach that was covered with algae?

frostedlove · Dec 19, 2010

Prime

I know I have read it on here before and I dug 5 pages back and saw a few people say aquarium stuff works.

So far I am using PRIME and it seems to work. I am big into microbs and things and do not want clorine or clorimine in my plants. I think its working cause I have not killed the worms that I have living in my plants.

Anyone know how hardy or unhardy worms are in indoor plants? So far, When every I transplant I see worms in the soil alive and well. So I think that my soil is more alive then most. Or well I hope so anyway.

Prime is supper concentrate so a little goes a long ways

Seamaiden · Dec 20, 2010

Frosted, the aquarium stuff is the sodium thiosulfate, and I can practically guarantee that it won't harm microbes in the concentrations mentioned above. I believe I can say that because I know factually that it will not kill nitrifying bacteria in freshwater or marine aquaria, nor will it harm delicate corals, tunicates, and other invertebrates. What can kill them quickly are cupric solutions (will kill the worms, too).

I used to get worms in the soil girls, especially if they were put outside overnight. Coco = no worms.

sincethe80s said:
seamaiden, just curious what would you bleach that was covered with algae?

Dead coral heads, pumps, tubing, other equipment that would be visible in the displays.

sincethe80s · Dec 22, 2010

so after you bleach, the sodium thiosulfate would neutralize everything from the chlorine?

Seamaiden · Dec 22, 2010

brookstown · Dec 22, 2010

do you guys think you hve to RO filter water that comes from the tap at less than 50 PPM? I get the chlo arguement but I don't run benes so I'm not sure if it is a benefit to me.

sincethe80s · Dec 23, 2010

Seamaiden said:
Yes.

and i can use it in the reef tank right after? that beats hosing down equipment and drying them....thanks!!!!

Billygoat · Dec 24, 2010

Very good info. Thanks for sharing. Didn't know that chloramine could make it past a RO system. Maybe, that's what I'm having issues with. Going to try the fish water conditioner and see if it helps my issues. Thanks to Zoe and everyone here. Thanks for the info. Merry Christmas
Take care,
BG

cymbaline · Dec 24, 2010

chloramine will eat a RO membrane.
You need to have the correct carbon block before that membrane...

Billygoat · Dec 24, 2010

cymbaline said:
chloramine will eat a RO membrane.
You need to have the correct carbon block before that membrane...

This is why I love this site and the internet. I never knew that and I learned a few things since last night. To me, the stuff sounds like some nasty stuff. Glad the city puts this stuff in our water.

Thanks for the info. I'm getting some water conditioner today. Thanks everyone for the info. Never knew this stuff was so bad. :confused0054:
Merry Christmas,
BG

Jimmynitz · Dec 24, 2010

Seamaiden said:
Frosted, the aquarium stuff is the sodium thiosulfate, and I can practically guarantee that it won't harm microbes in the concentrations mentioned above. I believe I can say that because I know factually that it will not kill nitrifying bacteria in freshwater or marine aquaria, nor will it harm delicate corals, tunicates, and other invertebrates.

True, no harm at all from what I've seen.
I've been using tap water conditioner from API for a while with good results. I was using Prime like some of you, but wanted to find a conditioner w/out anything in it that provides a slime coat for the fish because its not needed..my roots don't have scales, LOL! The API stuff is also cheap and concentrated...3 drops per gal.

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