Sunshine #4 amended heavily with perlite and EWC:
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Chow mix (50/50 botanicare coco and hydroton, amended with EWC)
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Same nutes. Same room. Enough said.
Have you read MidWestDensity's grow log? He ran beds of coco and a bed of Peat. As you mentioned, the peat out-vegged the coco, hands down, but the end results weren't close with the coco crushing the peat in production.Thanks for doing the side by side, I've been wantin to do so for sometime but haven't got to it mostly because of fear of setbacks/learning curve.(dont have room for failure).
I've read a lot of studies that showed peat did better than coco but some of those studies were done before people new how important flushing and prechargeing were. Never really read anything where they took into account the runoff of coco prior to use-which brings me to my point, I'm tired of the inconsistencies I'm getting g in different batches of coco even "rinsed" high end coco(not blocks) . I've had many healthy plants transplanted into new coco only to stall and look like...ur pictures.
Can u talk to us a little about ur runoff in said coco and ur percharge method.
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Have you read MidWestDensity's grow log? He ran beds of coco and a bed of Peat. As you mentioned, the peat out-vegged the coco, hands down, but the end results weren't close with the coco crushing the peat in production.
Excited to see your results Cap, thanks for broadcasting the experiment..
@Capulator care to enlighten us on how heavily amended with perlite and ewc
Wow, this says a lot. Not what Ive seen in my own garden. Ill have to do a side by side and see how it goes. Are you going to document all the way through the end of flowering? What issues have you had with the chow mix?
Look into MidwestDensity's grow log.... just referring to his observation..Question for coco defense: are you implying that peat has a more vigorous veg but coco blows up after flip?
I'm running straight bm6 peat/perlite(22%) this run next cycle is gonna have more dolomite ewc and perlite
So....after doing a LOT of research I'm pretty sure I found out why SS#4 out performs coco in Veg. There is a lot of material in SS#4 that breaks down into available nitrogen. The problem with that though is you wind up getting more stretch during flower and wind up with less budsites that are getting adequate light. Hence why I think MWD wound up doing better in Coco.
I did some side by sides after I read MWD's Harem. My actual best results were with a blend of SS#4, Canna Coco and perlite. I have since switched back to Coco, but I could definitely see running the SS#4 on some of my stockier and slower vegging varieties.
What in sunshine breaks down in to N?
yo cap - no surprise the more aerated medium is crushin it :p
forreal though, shitty coco (most coco on the market is pretty shitty) can take a while to catch up to peat but once it does peat doesn't stand a chance. even adding all that perlite to counter the peat media's compaction is shaving some big area out of usable root zone which will def come into play later in flower...
I don't see how 50/50 coco/hydroton would offer more root space than sunshine #4 with extra perlite...
What I like about peat is the higher CEC> More forgiving. No need to "charge" anything. I don't think I will run out of root space in a 28 gallon container. If I did that would be dope as fuck. I am getting 2#/ with 12 gallon containers as it is.
Oh yeah this was botanicare "0 ppm" coco... Is that considered shitty?
Oh yeah this was botanicare "0 ppm" coco... Is that considered shitty?
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