jeaninique said:

I have a very healthy and large lady. I am wanting to take a clone of her, and keep it in a vegetative state In my super small setup for starters. while keeping her small and not going into bloom. is this possible? it would be in my set up from like October this year, to around now 2026 ( May 14th )

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Easy easy. I presume you're doing this outdoors and it's how I manage things year round. You'll want a dedicated space to hold your mother where you can give it a few extra hours of supplemental light. It doesn't have to be fancy, a fluorescent tube will do. But since you gotta burn the electricity anyways, better if you use an appropriate grow light and use it for more than keeping them in veg.

Call me paranoid but I run my supplemental lights from mid July thru mid May and they're only fully off for those two months of the year. They don't need much, but if you can do an 18 hour light schedule between outdoor and your supplemental, even better.

Just know if you're trying to make clones in the colder months, you'll want a heating pad with a thermostat to keep the rooting medium in a good temperature range, and the clones will need 24 hours of light under a small plant bulb or tube light.

I keep em year round in the winter and do stupid shit when I get bored, like flipping one outdoors in January just so I have buds to look at, lol.

Ninjadogma said:

Easy easy. I presume you're doing this outdoors and it's how I manage things year round. You'll want a dedicated space to hold your mother where you can give it a few extra hours of supplemental light. It doesn't have to be fancy, a fluorescent tube will do. But since you gotta burn the electricity anyways, better if you use an appropriate grow light and use it for more than keeping them in veg.

Call me paranoid but I run my supplemental lights from mid July thru mid May and they're only fully off for those two months of the year. They don't need much, but if you can do an 18 hour light schedule between outdoor and your supplemental, even better.

Just know if you're trying to make clones in the colder months, you'll want a heating pad with a thermostat to keep the rooting medium in a good temperature range, and the clones will need 24 hours of light under a small plant bulb or tube light.

I keep em year round in the winter and do stupid shit when I get bored, like flipping one outdoors in January just so I have buds to look at, lol.

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Sort of. I grow outdoors from past may long, to about october at the latest. other than that ive only had plants be inside for a few weeks before the weather outside is nice enough. they are under a simple led growing light. My growing space is very small, just in the top section of my closet ( about 4 feet tall give or take) i am wanting to have just one or clones being trimmed to stay very small. like 4 or 5 nodes. I prefer to not have them bud indoors

Is these feasible?

jeaninique said:

Is these feasible?

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Sure. You're just going to keep a perpetual veg grow through the winter, but you'll want a better light if that's all they're going to get. I forget some folks live places where it's not suitable outdoors year round. You can just keep trimming them back to manage size. Since you'll be putting them outside you don't really want to be doing any canopy training or anything. Just even plant height for good veg.

Ninjadogma said:

Sure. You're just going to keep a perpetual veg grow through the winter, but you'll want a better light if that's all they're going to get. I forget some folks live places where it's not suitable outdoors year round. You can just keep trimming them back to manage size. Since you'll be putting them outside you don't really want to be doing any canopy training or anything. Just even plant height for good veg.

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You're just going to put them under 18 hours of light per day. From what I've seen, right around 14 hours and under triggers flowering. Since you're just keeping them in veg and not focused on growth until May, you could even go down to 16 hours and it shouldn't be an issue.

jeaninique said:

Is these feasible?

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im gonna make a video really quick for ya on how i keep so many clones around without genetic drift or keeping large mothers in their own setups.

You can def veg on 16, i veg everything at 16/8. Plants look happier at 16/8, you do have to give them more light then 18 or 20 though. and plants will actually grow faster on 16/8 as well.

Here's a bit of a veg space hack for ya once your confident with your cloning methods. In total my two flowering tents and veg space all put together is about the same area as a single 5x5 tent. I pull 10-14oz every 4-5 weeks, and keep as many as two dozen individual phenotypes around at a time sometimes while running simultaneously breeding projects.


Organizing an efficient perpetual cycle of clones can be about as deep of a rabbit hole as you want it to be





I also stopped reading too soon. Lmao. You can keep plants in veg under 5000k LED shop lights from Walmart over winter if that's all you're needing to do. I do that all the time. You can get full spectrum LED panels plenty good enough for that job as cheap as 25 bucks on Amazon

If theyre clones you'll be moving back outside you will definitely want to veg on 16/8. And if you can program your timer to roughly win the sunset sunrise cycle is on the summer solstice. Like whatever time of day to whatever time of day etc.

And don't put them outside till mid June or they'll reveg. If you want to keep them from revegging but put em out sooner, the 5000k shop lights from Walmart will work just fine for that too as long as you grab a handful of them and get em mounted somewhat close. But even just pulling doffusors off 100w equivalent home LEDs and putting one per plant real close will do that job according to some. I haven't tried either. I just put clones back out in June.

You can accidentally trigger reveg with as much daylight hour as 15 to 16 hours though depending on how much you've transitioned to different photo. Too. If you gradually transition from 18 to 16 just a little bit each day with a digital time or your plants will start to prepare to flower just from the transitions alone. Hour count doesn't actually matter much when transitioning clones as long as it's less then ten hours of continuous darkness. that's just the easiest way to communicate it because any cannabis plant will flower if given more than 10 hours of continuous darkness regardless of transition periods or rates

If you're cloning in the colder months and don't have a heat pad or source, you can just take a cutting and stick it in a bottle of (drinking, not spring, spring water can be alkaline and mineralized enough to hinder) water in a window sill with natural light. It'll take a few weeks but it'll root fine so long as you frequently refresh the water. A cup of tap water will work fine too. You'll have nearly 100% rooting rates if they get an hour or so of real sun a day while in clean water.

you can just keep pruning a cutting back, and removing the extra top sites to maintain growth size and maturity. But every new generation of clone will drift slightly in yield and expression, and it does add up over time. or you can just keep re cloning the main meristem and expect no performance drift or yield hit in successive generations, but youll also end up with a lot more plants then you need lol. Cloning multiple generations away from the meristem repeatedly can get a flowers yield quality into some trouble over time.

Most growers keep long time mothers and prune them back repeatedly, and take a new clone when it gets too much to manage, but i much prefer just maintaining the original main meristem because it takes up less space, but thats only because im cycling out clones to flower in other tents.

that maui clone that looks like a seed plant though, that plant is just over a year old from seed now. That clones only a couple months old though, and that is the original main meristem of the plant.

Hope theres some useful info for you in all this brain puke.

thank you all this information is helpful. I dont have a heatpad or anything, I live in canada in a very well insulated home. stays 21 degrees year round inside with obvious exception of a few degrees either way depending on what were doing. Maybe I shouldve been more clear. I am wanting to make 2 clones, keep them very managed (2ft<), and in veg or some sort dormancy as i have some nicer genetics this year.

also, the hours im currently using for seedlings is turn off at midnight, and back on at 6 am.

jeaninique said:

thank you all this information is helpful. I dont have a heatpad or anything, I live in canada in a very well insulated home. stays 21 degrees year round inside with obvious exception of a few degrees either way depending on what were doing. Maybe I shouldve been more clear. I am wanting to make 2 clones, keep them very managed (2ft<), and in veg or some sort dormancy as i have some nicer genetics this year.

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OK i think i understand better now. Your set for genetics this summer outdoor but you still want to keep the plant your growing now and take clones. And your going to try and save them for a year indoors? Until you plant them in summer 2026? Man seems impossible wherre you plan on keeping them in a closest with out a dedicated area just for vegging plants. This would be difficult to keep them healthy with what you describe as the space you'd use. My 2cents