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Hey everyone! Thanks for checking in.

Here are some details on the setup
- room is 10ft x 5ft
- 3 x 315w CMH (underpowered for the space)
- medium is most CoCo Coir. 2 plants are in Roots Organic soil.
- nutrients are full line of Canna CoCo (A, B, Rhizo, Cannazym) as well as some Silica and CaliMagic
- temps stay between 65-73 (slightly colder than I’d like)
- no additional co2, maybe sometime soon
- 6in. fan with carbon filter for air

The three big plants in the back have been in veg since March. I was moving (among other things) and couldn’t flower them out. The rest were transplanted as clones beginning of November



Here are some pictures - will update with strain names later
 

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Here are some pictures from the last run, and some other photos of the plants from the last couple weeks
 

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More pics
 

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Dam beautiful man. Love the scrog nets.
 
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Wow, that's like a basement Godzilla canopy. What is growing in the smaller white pots?
 
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im just about to try canna a,b rhizotonic, cannazym, boost, and pk and coco. continued good luck,
 
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Killer work man, wow.

Are those all super cropped clones?
 
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Sick grow. What are the 315's pulling?
 
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Aqua Man said:
Dam beautiful man. Love the scrog nets.
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Thanks! Got the idea from someone on the forums a long time ago. He always had a big green poster in the background with the words "greenworks" on it
 
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Wow, that's like a basement Godzilla canopy. What is growing in the smaller white pots?
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Hopefully with some Godzilla nugs in there later!
Got a bunch of strains! Alaskan Sweet Skunk x2. Citrus Sap, Sweet Thunder, Golden Goat, Blue Lime Pie, Lucky Dragon, and one more that I can't recall at the moment
 
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10w30 said:
im just about to try canna a,b rhizotonic, cannazym, boost, and pk and coco. continued good luck,
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I love it. Can keep the res mixed up for a week easy. Ph only drifts a few points. The rhizotonic makes it get cloudy a bit earlier than without it.

I run the Cannazym for the little bit of PK. I use that every watering at 9-10ml/gal
The Rhizotonic makes everything so much greener. I use that every other or 3rd feeding because it's so expensive and I see no extra benefit

Hopefully you like it too! I always keep a couple plants in soil for comparison, and the coco blows them away every time
Let me know if you have any questions!
 
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Killer work man, wow.

Are those all super cropped clones?
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Thanks! Very kind words.
They are all clones - they've been topped multiple times, and yes all sorts of supercropping/LST

I don't do a traditional "top." I cut a few nodes down. It cuts way down on the recovery time for the plant. This way, a big fresh branch is waiting to grow instead of a tiny little new leaf set. If that makes sense?
 
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Sick grow. What are the 315's pulling?
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Thanks man! What are they pulling weight wise? I usually get about 2lbs. per 935w of CMH. Nothing crazy I suppose. Not sure if that is good or bad for these lights lol
 
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02trueblue said:
Thanks! Very kind words.
They are all clones - they've been topped multiple times, and yes all sorts of supercropping/LST

I don't do a traditional "top." I cut a few nodes down. It cuts way down on the recovery time for the plant. This way, a big fresh branch is waiting to grow instead of a tiny little new leaf set. If that makes sense?
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For sure. I dont as well. I'll fim the top, then in 5-7 days. Top the new growth node (tiny). So its super fast to recover from. They bush out nicely from there.
 
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Thanks man! What are they pulling weight wise? I usually get about 2lbs. per 935w of CMH. Nothing crazy I suppose. Not sure if that is good or bad for these lights lol
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Naw thats decent. I have 2 - 630's atm in a 4x8 doing a seed run. Never flowered with them so was curious.
 
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Naw thats decent. I have 2 - 630's atm in a 4x8 doing a seed run. Never flowered with them so was curious.
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That would be more like it! Two 630's instead of three 315's would be badass. I had these in a 4x8 before this 5x10 spot.
Ideally I'd throw a 600w HPS in between them! Or stagger them and use some of those 75w COB pucks
 
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For sure. I dont as well. I'll fim the top, then in 5-7 days. Top the new growth node (tiny). So its super fast to recover from. They bush out nicely from there.
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That sounds like a good way to do it. I bet that second top really does make them into a nice bush!
 
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That sounds like a good way to do it. I bet that second top really does make them into a nice bush!
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And a nice week & 1/2 long dose of growth hormones. Ty, anywho. back to your garden topic.
 
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And a nice week & 1/2 long dose of growth hormones. Ty, anywho. back to your garden topic.
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What kind of growth hormones are you talking about? Sounds interesting lol
 
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Going to update later with some photos

Spur of the moment decision - I decided to try and see how low of nutrient doses the plans could tolerate this round.
Went out of town, and ran out of Canna part B soooo they went 5 days with plain water + a little calmag. As y'all know, that's a big no-no in coco... especially week 2-3 flowering.
They were showing some deficiencies when I got back in town, so i flushed the pots well with a nice fresh batch of nutrients.... then it hit me to try and see how low of nutrients I could keep them on the whole run. I'm interested what the end product is going to be like. They look bomb at this point! Despite some ugly leaves from the plain water while out of town. The new growth is super nice

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Sticking to the Canna grow guide at about 2/3 strength for the base nutes. Full strength (well, about 90% recommended strength) for the additives. Using the full line.
I just add enough Calimagic to bring my tap water up to about 220ppm.. I shoot for somewhere between 200-250ppm before adding A+B

Feedings are as follows...

everything is PH'd to 6/0, but truthfully it fluctuates between 5.9 and 6.2.
Temps have been a bit cold, being in a basement in Colorado. Temps have been 62-75

Week 1-2 of 12/12 - about 680ppm
Silica 1.25 ml/gal
CaliMagic 2 ml/gal
Canna A 8ml/gal
Canna B 8ml/gal
Rhizotonic 8ml/gal
Cannazym 9ml/gal
Mykos - 1T/gal

Week 2-4 of 12/12 - about 720ppm
(slightly upped A + B, and changed from Mykos to Mammoth P. Also, added in Cannaboost. Dropped Rhizotonic down to 2ml/gal)
Silica 1.25 ml/gal
CaliMagic 2 ml/gal
Canna A 9ml/gal
Canna B 9ml/gal
Rhizotonic 2ml/gal
Cannazym 9ml/gal
Cannaboost 6ml/gal
Mammoth P - 1ml/gal

Week 4-5 - about 800ppm
(added in PK 13/14..... Might wait until week 5 to add the PK though...)
Silica 1.25 ml/gal
CaliMagic 2 ml/gal
Canna A 9ml/gal
Canna B 9ml/gal
PK 13/14 2ml/gal (that's only 1/3 recommended strength.. might bump it up to 3ml/gal)
Rhizotonic 2ml/gal
Cannazym 9ml/gal
Cannaboost 6ml/gal
Mammoth P - 1 ml/gal

Week 6-7
(Dropped the PK 13/14, and dropped A+B down to 6ml/gal)
Silica 1.25 ml/gal
CaliMagic 2 ml/gal
Canna A 6ml/gal
Canna B 6ml/gal
Rhizotonic 2ml/gal
Cannazym 9ml/gal
Cannaboost 6ml/gal
Mammoth P - 1ml/gal

Week 8
(began dropping base nutes even more, kind of like a little pre-flush to get the PPM of the coco down)
Canna A 9ml/gal
Canna B 9ml/gal
Rhizotonic 2ml/gal
Cannazym 9ml/gal
Cannaboost 6ml/gal
Mammoth P - 1ml/gal

Week 8-9 (Flushing) *flushing with cannaboost is the shit
Cannaboost 8 ml/gal
Cannazym 6 ml/gal

Week 10 (finish flushing)
Plain water only trying to get runoff PPM down to 200ish

That's as much of the details as I could think of right now! Hopefully that helps somebody
 
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