Could these plants have HPLVD?

Sensemilla · Feb 7, 2024

Hey !!

I bought some beans from a breeder called BeLeaf… despite everything Els that’s been going round, I’ve been hearing rumours of his stock testing positive for having HPLVD virus and wanted to check in with anyone here that has possibly come across this virus before? Your help is greatly appreciated!!

I know it’s quite hard to tell during veg but I have added a couple pics of some plants I recently flipped over to flower. They have been flowering now for close to two weeks. I’m trying to avoid tossing them if I can as I live in South Africa and the exchange rate is terrible, I would be taking a huge loss if I had to toss them but understand that it can be spread and want to avoid that at all costs.

I have been researching a couple signs of HPLVD from lateral branching (more prominent in veg) to decreased THC & Trichome production, overlapping or small fan leaves and overall loss of vigour in the plant but I know that some plants may be asymptomatic only showing signs at around week 3 of flower which makes it difficult to tell.

I have attached some pics of the mother (grown from seed) plant, a clone I took 2 weeks ago, and 2 flowering plants that have been flowering for almost 2 weeks. I did some LST training on some of them which may explain some of the lateral branching. I also did a light defoliation on the plants were the flowers are starting to show. The two different flowering plants are the same strain Chimera #2S-1.

I appreciate any help in advance

muppet · Feb 7, 2024

hey man could you make me a little less ignorant. HPLVD ?

Sensemilla · Feb 7, 2024

muppet said:
hey man could you make me a little less ignorant. HPLVD ?

Lol my bad G. Hop Latent Viroid Disease

Greenjourneyman · Feb 7, 2024

Uncovering The COVID of Cannabis - HLVD, Hop Latent Viroid

One study estimates as much as 90% of California cannabis is infected with HLVd, costing nearly $4 billion in lost yields.

medicinalgenomics.com

RhastaBlasta · Feb 7, 2024

Hello!

While the plant does look a bit strange and has some abnormal branching, it still look quite alive, healthy even. Perhaps moving the plants in a different grow place and just let it grow. Perhaps try adjusting light, use few fertilizers. Maybe even take a clone and see how will it behave. At a current stage I can't say if it is surely a hop latent viroid or not, it has both yes and no's on the photo...

Would just say don't buy from random placed. I have not faced such things with the place I buy from. But perhaps it's just a random outcome, or the plant just need some nutrients

Sensemilla · Feb 7, 2024

Greenjourneyman said:
Uncovering The COVID of Cannabis - HLVD, Hop Latent Viroid

One study estimates as much as 90% of California cannabis is infected with HLVd, costing nearly $4 billion in lost yields.

medicinalgenomics.com

Thanks for this I appreciate it. I’ve read through this one and a couple other posts but still can’t make up my mind as to wether or not my plants have it.

Justlovetogrow · Feb 7, 2024

Old be leaf isn’t that the fella who choked his mrs and chucked a dog out the window not someone I’d support fk him not sure about your virus mate sorry but they don’t look to bad anyways

Sensemilla · Feb 7, 2024

RhastaBlasta said:
Hello!

While the plant does look a bit strange and has some abnormal branching, it still look quite alive, healthy even. Perhaps moving the plants in a different grow place and just let it grow. Perhaps try adjusting light, use few fertilizers. Maybe even take a clone and see how will it behave. At a current stage I can't say if it is surely a hop latent viroid or not, it has both yes and no's on the photo...

Would just say don't buy from random placed. I have not faced such things with the place I buy from. But perhaps it's just a random outcome, or the plant just need some nutrients

Hey @RhastaBlasta . Thanks for the response. Unfortunately moving to another location/tent is not an option as I don’t have space. What are the “yes” you see in the plant? What signs do you see as strange? Some of the branching is somewhat lateral but that could be due to the LST I was doing during the veg period . Other than that, to me, the plant looks pretty healthy. I don’t know if upping the nutes would be the solution as when I did the plants started to show signs of over fertilising so I backed off on the recommended amount and the plants responded well.

Sensemilla · Feb 7, 2024

Justlovetogrow said:
Old be leaf isn’t that the fella who choked his mrs and chucked a dog out the window not someone I’d support fk him not sure about your virus mate sorry but they don’t look to bad anyways

I by no means support him either but I purchased these seeds long before all this came out and as I said given the exchange rate, I’m not in a position to toss seeds that cost so much. I’d rather grow them out and get my money worth

Sensemilla · Feb 7, 2024

Justlovetogrow said:
Old be leaf isn’t that the fella who choked his mrs and chucked a dog out the window not someone I’d support fk him not sure about your virus mate sorry but they don’t look to bad anyways

Chucked a dog out the window ? Damn it gets worse, thanks for the response G. One love

RhastaBlasta · Feb 7, 2024

Sensemilla said:
Hey @RhastaBlasta . Thanks for the response. Unfortunately moving to another location/tent is not an option as I don’t have space. What are the “yes” you see in the plant? What signs do you see as strange? Some of the branching is somewhat lateral but that could be due to the LST I was doing during the veg period . Other than that, to me, the plant looks pretty healthy. I don’t know if upping the nutes would be the solution as when I did the plants started to show signs of over fertilising so I backed off on the recommended amount and the plants responded well.

Well, first of all, I can see that the branches are growing a bit unusual, which is one of the "yes" signs. As I've mentioned - that's just one yes, and no's is that, as you've said, it looks healthy. Unfortunately, you will most likely be able to tell later on during trichomes production and after you harvest, if it will have much less cannabinoid production, also if it smells pretty poorly. Of course if you are not going to test the plant for the possible VD

But I'd say do not overreact and try nutrients first

Justlovetogrow · Feb 7, 2024

Sensemilla said:
I by no means support him either but I purchased these seeds long before all this came out and as I said given the exchange rate, I’m not in a position to toss seeds that cost so much. I’d rather grow them out and get my money worth

Oh for sure grow them suckers out man wasnt havin a go at you at all mate n I wish you all the best

muppet · Feb 7, 2024

Greenjourneyman said:
Uncovering The COVID of Cannabis - HLVD, Hop Latent Viroid

One study estimates as much as 90% of California cannabis is infected with HLVd, costing nearly $4 billion in lost yields.

medicinalgenomics.com

cheers greenjourneyman. much appreciated. damn its like some beer industry flunky got jealous of our girls resurgence in the modern world, -or something.
dont get me started on med genomics though...

Sensemilla · Feb 7, 2024

Justlovetogrow said:
Oh for sure grow them suckers out man wasnt havin a go at you at all mate n I wish you all the best

not at all. Didn’t think you were at all . It may just be my paranoid stoner brain making me see something that’s not there . Have a power day

Sensemilla · Feb 7, 2024

RhastaBlasta said:
Well, first of all, I can see that the branches are growing a bit unusual, which is one of the "yes" signs. As I've mentioned - that's just one yes, and no's is that, as you've said, it looks healthy. Unfortunately, you will most likely be able to tell later on during trichomes production and after you harvest, if it will have much less cannabinoid production, also if it smells pretty poorly. Of course if you are not going to test the plant for the possible VD

But I'd say do not overreact and try nutrients first

Thanks for the feedback. I was genuinely asking to see if we were ticking the same boxes. I guess I’ll wait a bit longer then. I’ve read that they’ll start to smell like composting leaves once they get to that point. Anyways, another day of learning about this plant . Respect

RhastaBlasta · Feb 7, 2024

Sensemilla said:
Thanks for the feedback. I was genuinely asking to see if we were ticking the same boxes. I guess I’ll wait a bit longer then. I’ve read that they’ll start to smell like composting leaves once they get to that point. Anyways, another day of learning about this plant . Respect

You're always and most welcome!

Let that lady grow strong, grow good!

Sensemilla · Feb 7, 2024

muppet said:
cheers greenjourneyman. much appreciated. damn its like some beer industry flunky got jealous of our girls resurgence in the modern world, -or something.
dont get me started on med genomics though...

RhastaBlasta said:
You're always and most welcome!

Let that lady grow strong, grow good!

Awe!! One love G

Zill · Feb 7, 2024

Sense,

That is not HvLVd. HvLV stunts plants - Look normal just smaller. It’s a very cool pathogen. Not a virus. Just a simple hairpin wrapped piece of naked RNA. Once your plants show signs it’s time to cut and bury everything. Don’t burn.

Zill.

Sensemilla · Feb 7, 2024

Zill said:
Sense,

That is not HvLVd. HvLV stunts plants - Look normal just smaller. It’s a very cool pathogen. Not a virus. Just a simple hairpin wrapped piece of naked RNA. Once your plants show signs it’s time to cut and bury everything. Don’t burn.

Zill.

Thanks so much for your response. I really appreciate it. So just to confirm, I’m good then, I can continue to grow these gals out? If you wouldn’t mind sharing some of the telltale signs in your experience that would be great. Thanks again.

Sensemilla · Feb 7, 2024

Zill said:
Sense,

That is not HvLVd. HvLV stunts plants - Look normal just smaller. It’s a very cool pathogen. Not a virus. Just a simple hairpin wrapped piece of naked RNA. Once your plants show signs it’s time to cut and bury everything. Don’t burn.

Zill.

First time I’ve heard someone calling it cool . I guess we have to appreciate Mother Nature in all aspects.

Could these plants have HPLVD?

Could these plants have HPLVD?

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