Cuttings

Terpeneluv · Jul 24, 2019

Hey all,

As I get closer to flip, I'm considering taking a few cuttings, but I have a question.

Do I only take them in veg, or can I wait a week or so in flower? I ask because I really can't find anywhere to take them. The few that I do see look like they'll make it to the canopy and really don't wanna take away from that much yield. My thinking is if I wait a week or two, some towards the bottom will appear.

I'm I thinking right here, or do I sacrifice some possible colas?

MIMedGrower · Jul 24, 2019

I take lower branches in flower and never have a problem. They can take longer to root though.

I recently got a 9.5 and an 11 week flowering ripening budded branch to root.

Terpeneluv · Jul 24, 2019

MIMedGrower said:
I take lower branches in flower and never have a problem. They can take longer to root though.

I recently got a 9.5 and an 11 week flowering ripening budded branch to root.

Thanks for that. Next week I flip and I'm kinda stressed about it.

1. The cutting question.
2. One of them (different strain) is 6 inches taller. Since I only have to and it's a 2x4, I plan on a scrog. Not sure if I should elevate, making it harder to maintain, or just hope it catches up during stretch. I've been rocking and bending the tall one in hopes the small one catches up. Tomorrow Im tying down some of the tall parts in the hopes that the center will move up but I don't know.

This is a learning experience that I love

Jimster · Jul 24, 2019

As was recommended, take your cuttings from the lower branches and they will be fine. Cuttings are a lot easier to root during vegetative growth. During flowering, it is much more difficult.

MIMedGrower · Jul 25, 2019

I rooted this bud in a glass of water. Took 10 days to show root bumps and small roots. Then planted in a cup of ocean forest and rooted more in a clone dome away from the direct light for a couple more weeks.

Then she started the reveg process. Im doing it to another plant i should have cloned now. Its another little flower with new roots. Lol.

Just to show it can be done easily with a lot of patience and attention to detail.

NGA · Jul 25, 2019

I see a lot of ppl say ,clones from a flowering plant are harder to root hmm don’t really see that I think they tend to root faster in my case , I learned to grow from some older folks years ago ,there is one thing that you guys should try is when you make your final cut on your clone put it in a glass of water place it in the dark for 24 hrs then do as you normally would, can’t remember the last time I had a clone die .i don’t trim leaves,no dome,no spray simple ,tray 1/4 inch water done ,there are times they’ll lay down for a day or two, don’t touch them

Jimster · Jul 26, 2019

I don't usually clone or take cuttings myself too much, but if a branch snaps off, it gets stuck into the dirt about 3 or 4 inches and it usually roots quickly without any additional intervention. After flowering, especially the Sativas, the plants often die off. If it is cut a little sooner, the results have been positive, but when I have tried to take cuttings or branches from a plant that is about spent, the result is a wilted and dead branch/clone/mother. This is just my experience with taking clones or cuttings from fully finished Sativas. Once I get to the point that the leaf yellowing is beginning, cloning is futile... at least with my experience. I'm sure a cloning guru or someone much more familiar with the process could be of better help.

YinYang420 · Oct 29, 2019

i was wondering if any of you knew if cuttings can survive in 80+ F temps...

Aqua Man · Oct 29, 2019

Yes but they need high humidity until rooted.

BigCube · Oct 29, 2019

I've also yet to lose a clone. Must have made thousands over the years.
While generally I do find flowering cuttings do take longer to root than veg cuttings, they dont seem any more picky.

I cut the branch off the mother, 45 it, scarify the stem bit on the back end of the cut and stick it in a solo cup.

Water it once and put it in the corner of my veg tent under the canopy of some other plant for a few days. Then put it under full light in day 4 or 5.

No root hormone, no spraying the cuttings, no nothing. I get roots coming out the bottom of the solo cup in about 7 days. Flowering cutting definitely takes longer, but not too much.

Mr.jiujitsu · Oct 30, 2019

BigCube said:
I've also yet to lose a clone. Must have made thousands over the years.
While generally I do find flowering cuttings do take longer to root than veg cuttings, they dont seem any more picky.

I cut the branch off the mother, 45 it, scarify the stem bit on the back end of the cut and stick it in a solo cup.

Water it once and put it in the corner of my veg tent under the canopy of some other plant for a few days. Then put it under full light in day 4 or 5.

No root hormone, no spraying the cuttings, no nothing. I get roots coming out the bottom of the solo cup in about 7 days. Flowering cutting definitely takes longer, but not too much.

Thousands and never had a single one die. so many people here grow some amazing smoke, the only thing greater than the smoke I see is the story telling. I mean let’s me real, I have been taking cuttings since I was 12, mom taught me. I have taken thousands by now, and had plenty die. Anyone who says they have taken thousands of cuttings and never lost one, is like the guy at Jiujitsu who has never been tapped (he also never live trains... ) I have seen your grows and You got skills bro, and your shit don’t stink

BigCube · Oct 30, 2019

Mr.jiujitsu said:
Thousands and never had a single one die. so many people here grow some amazing smoke, the only thing greater than the smoke I see is the story telling. I mean let’s me real, I have been taking cuttings since I was 12, mom taught me. I have taken thousands by now, and had plenty die. Anyone who says they have taken thousands of cuttings and never lost one, is like the guy at Jiujitsu who has never been tapped (he also never live trains... ) I have seen your grows and You got skills bro, and your shit don’t stink

Oh no. Some rando on the internet doesnt believe me. Whatever should I do?

In all seriousness though. If you actually spent the time to read other posts I've made before jumping to conclusions and acting like an asshat, for whatever reason. You would know that I am honest, I admit when I dont know things, I have no problem asking for help or discussing my knowledge gaps. For example, I cant grow outdoor to save my life. Of the dozen plants I've tried to grow outdoor in my 20+ years of growing, less than half of them actually made it full term. Most of them died half way through flower fro. Some sort of blight or pest. I have no idea about anything non hydroponic or anything about outdoor pests.

Why would it offend you so much if someone has made a thousand clones and never lost one? Even if that person was making it up. What do you get out of acting like a butt hurt 5th grader?

Anyways man, believe me or not. I don't care. But please be civil about it.

Mr.jiujitsu · Oct 31, 2019

BigCube said:
Oh no. Some rando on the internet doesnt believe me. Whatever should I do?

In all seriousness though. If you actually spent the time to read other posts I've made before jumping to conclusions and acting like an asshat, for whatever reason. You would know that I am honest, I admit when I dont know things, I have no problem asking for help or discussing my knowledge gaps. For example, I cant grow outdoor to save my life. Of the dozen plants I've tried to grow outdoor in my 20+ years of growing, less than half of them actually made it full term. Most of them died half way through flower fro. Some sort of blight or pest. I have no idea about anything non hydroponic or anything about outdoor pests.

Why would it offend you so much if someone has made a thousand clones and never lost one? Even if that person was making it up. What do you get out of acting like a butt hurt 5th grader?

Anyways man, believe me or not. I don't care. But please be civil about it.

but hurt? Na just the typical bs I see people
Post all day everyday, it’s cool you take cuttings, we all do. Like I said any person who claims perfection is only trying to fool themselves. Sorry you have had such poor luck growing outside, can’t really understand how you can never have a clone die, but in 20 years never successfully finish a single outdoor plant. I have read plenty of your posts, and like I said I think you have skills, but if you make stupid claims then it sounds like you think your shit don’t stink. I know mine does, cause I’m taking one right now

BigCube · Oct 31, 2019

Mr.jiujitsu said:
but hurt? Na just the typical bs I see people
Post all day everyday, it’s cool you take cuttings, we all do. Like I said any person who claims perfection is only trying to fool themselves. Sorry you have had such poor luck growing outside, can’t really understand how you can never have a clone die, but in 20 years never successfully finish a single outdoor plant. I have read plenty of your posts, and like I said I think you have skills, but if you make stupid claims then it sounds like you think your shit don’t stink. I know mine does, cause I’m taking one right now

Did you read anything I typed?
I've tried to grow outside about 12 times. Half of them were to completion. Half died. This is over the span of 20 years. I believe it has more to do with factors I cannot control than the ones I can.

Indoor, I've never lost a single plant. Clone or otherwise. The only way to fail at cloning indoor is if you did something wrong. If you have a good system and are consistent, anyone can achieve the same results.

My father (who taught me how to clone and grow) also hasn't lost a single clone in his almost 40 years of growing.

It's not a hard thing to do. If you're going to make 4 clones. Take 6 cuttings, all from top or upper portions of the plant. Scar the stem a bit after you 45 it. Stick it in a solo cup full of medium (in my case promix hpcc) and water it. Keep it under somewhat weak light like a les bulb or a CFL bulb. Or like I do, in the veg tent under the foliage of another plant.

I don't even look at them for like 5 days after. On day 5 to 7 I check them out to see if they need water yet, and I toss out the 2 with the least new growth.

Never had one die. Boom. Maybe contributed to the fact that I was taught how to do it properly to begin with. Who knows. But what I do know is other people have has the same success as me. And most people after figuring out a good process also NEVER lose clones.

Hell, outdoor farms who take cuttings I the hundreds at a time and accept a certain amount of loss therefore are not as careful as they could be, get over 99% success rate for cloning. And they are jamming flats full of hundreds of cuttings and treating them as a single thing rather than giving each one individual attention.
They expect to lose some, and plan for it. Therefore dont even try to attain 100%
I'm sure they could if they tried.

Now all that being said. I don't care about your jujitsu analogy. It's not even close to the same thing. You do know some professional fighters actuall do retire undefeated right? You do know that the analogy is flawed cause to be a proper analogy, would require me to have never taken a clone.

I don't know what else to tell you man. Maybe get out of your bubble. See the world, learn that sometimes some people are lucky or good as something. Or that the thing being claimed isn't that big of a claim. If fact, it might be almost normal.

If you tried. I'm sure you could get to 100% and never lose another clone again. It's not hard.

Mr.jiujitsu · Oct 31, 2019

BigCube said:
Did you read anything I typed?
I've tried to grow outside about 12 times. Half of them were to completion. Half died. This is over the span of 20 years. I believe it has more to do with factors I cannot control than the ones I can.

Indoor, I've never lost a single plant. Clone or otherwise. The only way to fail at cloning indoor is if you did something wrong. If you have a good system and are consistent, anyone can achieve the same results.

My father (who taught me how to clone and grow) also hasn't lost a single clone in his almost 40 years of growing.

It's not a hard thing to do. If you're going to make 4 clones. Take 6 cuttings, all from top or upper portions of the plant. Scar the stem a bit after you 45 it. Stick it in a solo cup full of medium (in my case promix hpcc) and water it. Keep it under somewhat weak light like a les bulb or a CFL bulb. Or like I do, in the veg tent under the foliage of another plant.

I don't even look at them for like 5 days after. On day 5 to 7 I check them out to see if they need water yet, and I toss out the 2 with the least new growth.

Never had one die. Boom. Maybe contributed to the fact that I was taught how to do it properly to begin with. Who knows. But what I do know is other people have has the same success as me. And most people after figuring out a good process also NEVER lose clones.

Hell, outdoor farms who take cuttings I the hundreds at a time and accept a certain amount of loss therefore are not as careful as they could be, get over 99% success rate for cloning. And they are jamming flats full of hundreds of cuttings and treating them as a single thing rather than giving each one individual attention.
They expect to lose some, and plan for it. Therefore dont even try to attain 100%
I'm sure they could if they tried.

Now all that being said. I don't care about your jujitsu analogy. It's not even close to the same thing. You do know some professional fighters actuall do retire undefeated right? You do know that the analogy is flawed cause to be a proper analogy, would require me to have never taken a clone.

I don't know what else to tell you man. Maybe get out of your bubble. See the world, learn that sometimes some people are lucky or good as something. Or that the thing being claimed isn't that big of a claim. If fact, it might be almost normal.

If you tried. I'm sure you could get to 100% and never lose another clone again. It's not hard.

Hahaha this is exactly what I would expect for a reply I appreciate your tips, but I have no issues taking cuttings, from cannabis, trees, shrubs... indoors or out. Cannabis is one of the easier cuttings to be successful with, when compared to woodier plants - but you probably know this already. My point was anyone who says they have taken thousands Nd never lost a single one is a full of . Plenty of people have retired undefeated, but if you think they never lost a fight in training or amateur then Your blanking out hard. So yeah I can admit to losing cuttings when I was 12 and learning guess you just got that touch little doggie. Your in everything you said about taking clones, my guess is you just forgot after 40 years Me I have only been growing for around 30, many generations deep so I can only speak to what I have seen. You grow some nice flowers, and you know what your doing, guess I got just can’t help but call bs when people make claims that are just silly. You Never lost a plant that started as a cutting, you never lost a clone - and my flying kimura is unstoppable

BigCube · Oct 31, 2019

You keep calling me a liar. Telling me I'm full of shit. You think its impossible for someone to never have lost a clone? Lol

Dude. You call me names and full of shit. Everything you type just points to the real personal who has some growing up to do.

I'm done here. From your user name to how you choose to act and talk to people, I want nothing more to do with you.

You sir are not full of shit. You just are shit. -ignored

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