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Without any other info yet, does this appear to be a deficiency or abundance? I'm almost through 1 week of flower
 

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Looks like maybe calcium def or bugs. Do you have a scope to look at those spots? Can you give us any more info: growing media, fert type and frequency, environment details? Picture of whole plant?
 
Looks like maybe calcium def or bugs. Do you have a scope to look at those spots? Can you give us any more info: growing media, fert type and frequency, environment details? Picture of whole plant?
absolutely brotha and thanks so much. I know it is a cardinal sin but I have not even ph'ed my water in weeks because I was giving them the exact same thing and going off of how they looked. I seemed to be having no issues so just disregarded and now I think I've spotted something. I do have a microscope and magnifying glass and can see no signs of any pests and have kept pretty vigilant. After just testing what I've been feeding them I think I'm leaning towards deficiency. This is my 1st grow so been flying day by day with it. Any thoughts are much appreciated

medium - 50/50 coco/perl
almost through 1 week of flower
flipped to flower 60 days from sprout
2 white widow 2 chem cookies but it is only 1 chem cookie that seems to have this going on
feed 1 time daily but at least once a week twice
each plant gets 1L with 4ml Advanced Nutrients Micro, Grow, and Bloom and also 1ml cal-mag
Temp/RH 75/45
Ph 5.76 and using RO water
TDS 1.68(way low huh?)

Other nutes I have are AN B-52, Big Bud, and Overdrive. I was planning on starting Big Bud and B-52 after week 1, should I just start now since my ppm is so low at this stage?
 

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Looks like maybe calcium def or bugs. Do you have a scope to look at those spots? Can you give us any more info: growing media, fert type and frequency, environment details? Picture of whole plant?
Could it be phosphorus deficiency? On charts it seems to be what would suffer most from a ph of 5.76
 
Those symptoms on the edge and tips match up to light stress and Ca/Mg def IMO.
No bugs right ?
P would show your new growth with thinner blades which I don't see ?
But P would be my second choice .
 
Thanks much brotha and is it common to increase the amount of cal-mag? Dang bottle says 3-5ml per gallon for all stages so I just ran with 4ml so far. I added big bud and b-52 today at half dose on bottle and my TDS was still only 1.75. This leads me to agree with you this is more likely deficiency than abundance since I don't appear to be feeding them one. Should I be using more of the nutes by a bit?
Those sympbroth on the edge and tips match up to light stress and Ca/Mg def IMO.
No bugs right ?
P would show your new growth with thinner blades which I don't see ?
But P would be my second choice .
 
The light sounds well within reason and shouldn't be the problem IMO .
I am soil so can't really speak for coco properly .
I use Ca/Mg at least every 2 weeks in my grows so far ?
 
Like steamroller said, light sounds fine. The plant looks fine. I wouldn't change much, but I also grow in soil, not a coco expert. Maybe bump up the EC a smidge and see how she responds. Also, are you watering to runoff? Could have built up salts in the coco. I have read about some folks keeping their pH in a range, fluctuating it up and down slightly, instead of a static number. That helps prevent lockouts due to pH. Overall, looks healthy, I would make any huge changes.
 
Like steamroller said, light sounds fine. The plant looks fine. I wouldn't change much, but I also grow in soil, not a coco expert. Maybe bump up the EC a smidge and see how she responds. Also, are you watering to runoff? Could have built up salts in the coco. I have read about some folks keeping their pH in a range, fluctuating it up and down slightly, instead of a static number. That helps prevent lockouts due to pH. Overall, looks healthy, I would make any huge changes.
Roger that and thank you both for your time and prompt help. So thankful to know that I almost can't fail because of the help that exists here. Since I don't yet know better I keep spazzing a bit though and need to chill and although @CannaGranny keeps reminding me to, there seems to be a fine line between being proactive and oh shit you should have done something sooner

I agree I may be underfeeding with a TDS that low at week 1 into flower. The AN Big Bud bottle says to start after week 1 and I'm at day 5 so said close enough and added half the strength it says to add. The TDS only raised by .10 to 1.75 so I decided to start the B-52 and it didn't change it at all go figure. After buying B-52 I read much about how much b vitamins are a scam yada yada but I paid $10 each for B-52, Overdrive, and Big Bud and was already using the PH perfect Micro, Bloom, Grow and thought was a good buy.

It is ok to laugh but today is day 65 and the first time I considered what the TDS/PPM I was feeding actually was. Otherwise I would have done something sooner. I legit have fed them the same thing for about 6 weeks and disregarded that as they grow they may need more. If you aren't on the floor laughing then you are about to be. In order to increase the PPM do I just give more nutes?

Yeah that is a great point about fluctuating PH and I read and watched some videos about that. Although I try to feed till a bit of run-off there are about half the times I do not. I know PH for hydro is supposed to be lower for hydro than soil by a significant margin but I am wondering if I 5.75 isn't a bit low for early flower stage in coco. I have ph up but doubt that is the best(maybe easiest) way to raise it.

I have 4 girls atm. All fem photo and the 2 in front are chem cookies and 2 in back are white widows. Actually just went to mailbox and new beans for next grow arrived. Grape Rock Candy x Banana Butter Cup
 

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Is this a chart that is solid/safe to go by?
 

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What size containers are you in?

It's hard to say, that chart looks ok, if not a little on the hot side of things but I'm not very familiar with AN nutrients whatsoever.
 
You're using RO and at a quick glance, AN doesn't appear to have a ton of calcium. 1ml of a calmag additive doesnt sound like a lot. What brand of calmag are you using?

What size containers?
It is botanicare Cal-mag but bottle says to use 3-5 for entire plant life aside seedling. That can't be right to do right. It would be normal to increase cal-mag a bit when flip to flower? They are in 3g fabrics since transplant from solo cups on 2/5
 
What size containers are you in?

It's hard to say, that chart looks ok, if not a little on the hot side of things but I'm not very familiar with AN nutrients whatsoever.
yeah that chart wasn't related to AN specifically. Was just something I saw on web that showed TDS to PPM since I am such an idiot I don't know how to properly read them and didn't know some of them you just add a 0 or 2 yeah nothing to compare to personally and thankful AN nutes got me here but no way I would run them again. I just know there is a better way and I am leaning Jacks 321 or Cropsalt with a diy LP aeroponics setup for just 1 or 2 plants
 
You're using RO, so 3-5 ml of botanicare calmag isn't all that crazy consdiring AN doesn't look it has a lot of calcium on it's own. I'd try to increase your calmag to 3ml and see how your plants react after a few days.

Make sure you're getting a good amount of runoff when you water.

Keep in mind the 3-5ml recommendation for botanicare calmag is per gallon.

It might be helpful to search and see what other people using AN nutrients with RO are doing. The problem with adding to much calmag is that it also increases your N levels. Again, not very familiar with AN nutes.
 
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You're using RO, so 3-5 ml of botanicare calmag isn't all that crazy consdiring AN doesn't look it has a lot of calcium on it's own. I'd try to increase your calmag to 3ml and see how your plants react after a few days.

Make sure you're getting a good amount of runoff when you water.

Keep in mind the 3-5ml recommendation for botanicare calmag is per gallon.

It might be helpful to search and see what other people using AN nutrients with RO are doing. The problem with adding to much calmag is that it also increases your N levels. Again, not very familiar with AN nutes.
Roger that and I've been giving them 4ml per gallon so am gonna try 5ml and see how they respond. Definitely need to up the feed as you say because it has been taking more and more to get there. Thanks again
 
No one is laughing at you, your plants look great. I think we all enjoy seeing healthy cannabis plants, that's why this place is so helpful, we want you to succeed. Keep it up, man. Looking forward to seeing flowers.
 
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