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yeah thats one reason lol,check out the app sometime.i have it and i let them put a smart meter on my new shop because its not close to where we sleep ,but took the opt out for my house because that meter is right next to my bedroom.The underlying truth to why these "smart" meters were created WASN'T to spy on what electrical devices used how much electricity...... BUT. to...
Enable these electric companies to cut labor and jobs by NOT having to pay employees hourly to check the meters physically.
just know that they CAN see what we are using,not that they are looking that closely at each of us.my bill went from 80 to 120.00 a month to about 1500.00 a month about 7 years ago and i pay the bill every month and never had a prob.but the op is asking about a state that is not legal yet so i gave him my opinion and some facts about smart meters.the power company dont go around alerting cops to grows,cops get a tip or complaint,then get a warrant which is most cases would prob cover asking the power co for info on your usage before they pop you.900w is nothing imo,like i said my space heaters use 1500w each lol
its all good,im just giving real world info because i think the app is pretty slick and once my op is up and running im looking forward to seeing how stuff uses power.I totally understand what you mean. Don't take my responses as ridicule, or a "my opinion trumps yours". I've had this same convo many times, with many different people. :) I always try and set the electrical conspiracies adrift. Lol
You can opt out for the smart meter. It's like 80.00 a yr svc fee.
BTW there are plenty of folks that are incarcerated that thought the same way. All across America everyday SWAT teams cave in doors, kill family dogs, maim children, kill occupants and not even a knock. And 35 % of the time they find nothing or have the wrong address. Most of the time the action is brought about by a nameless so called CI.They need cause to get a warrant first,it's not like they can say "he's using alot of electricity judge" and get a warrant based on that.alot of homes use bucks in electrical every month,remember when they outed Al gore for having a 20k a month electric bill?
I guess i need to quantify and qualify who I am. I have a steel plate on my frt door, It has been rammed a few times. I am a MMJ Expert for MMJ trial when they used us back in the day, and have been witness on some of colo top court cases including Fed. I have whipped the Colo CBI chemist and botanist in court numerous times (my specialty).. I have beat all of my own cases, more than most of you have been arrested. Newbies, plz dont challenge me on this as many have and the old timers have vetted me , I'm the real deal... N metro drug task force commander lives directly accross the street, DEA lives behind me, victim protection snitch next to me, I know the CBI chemist, Amitich DEA SE colo, and they know me.., And I bail ppl out of jail and I grow dope and tell the cops FUCK YOU! Kick it on more than one occasion, an x-roommate on this forum,, they' can verify what its like living in my home... I have experience in this subject,,, I worked for PSCo of COlo for 13 years, I know the inside, They used to send undercover in to Xcel ,so easy to spot,,, now DEA work with utility company supervision direct.
This happened over 4k watt system.
Now the water Dept usage with elect utilities usage and now the Ol investigator say we better heat sink the house and go pull his floor plans , look for hidden rooms, well show the (jury his water, elect bill and heat sink photo to justify our warrant), we'll pull on his CPU photos, grow journals , IP and see what he did online to show the jury, illegal porn, counterfeits , you name it they're going to look.
TIP: I build elect tek stuff,,, it helps to record the raiders , expecially when they dont realize they're being stream online live. Work good on robbers too.
Lets start with are cops fair and legal?
NO
They do NOT need a warrant for anything, NEVER FORGET THAT, what you need to remember, You need bout $20,000 or more to prove that the cops are not Fair and Legal, dont forget,
Cop and judges go to each others weddings and social shit... got each other on speed dial... Colo state patrols will speed dial judge 3am to get search warrant on his word, thier in car in seconds, now you're in jail and there headed to your home to surprise visit on your family, thats it, thats ALL THE COP NEEDS FOR THE WARRANT, fact jack! happen to me to. read my case.
Now the fun starts once Cops are in your home they have fun, BIG LEAGUE FUN! they pile all your cloths, tear up your kids and family pics, dump your grinder and break your bong in the pile, take off all the rubber gloves, Red Bull cans, and throw it in the pile, all your valuables,,, not kidding , they circle the pile and piss on it, pissed all over my front room. No joke,, one cop has on the x GF sex cloths on with her toy in his hand he is chasing another officer around the house with a fucking dildo, trying to poke him with it, I shit you not.... So when I read the cops need a warrant I almost choke on my coffee and have to bite my tounge everytime, but not this time I letting loose homies these are the facts jack....
this room was treated nicely, they didnt break to many holes in the walls, a cpl, broken doors frames but not that bad. This is not the piss room- they were nice in here.
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They'll booby trap your garage door,,, PLZ inspect your roller carefully- fall on you or your car,,, all collector cars will have bent hinges (they jump on your car doors when opened as they search.
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She got a steel plate now.
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But I luv it when I hear ppl say, they need warrant,,, I always say , No- you need $20K and guess what? Thats for freedom. Robert lost a case here in Colo recently ,the other day, trying to sue these idiot cop game....
so the cops know , kick it in guys, We Dont have to pay for it.... Worst case scenario for cops is the victim gets found not guilty.
I bond ppl out of jail, I GMO'd bud, I had labs and the DEA associated me with the G13 experiments that cops found and cops realized I was part of the Ed Rosenthal breeding project... My hood is DEA, TSA, N Metro Drug Task Force, sheriffs, thornton, NG cops, FBI, CBI, CIA, are my neighbors and I get ppl out of jail that protect me,,, it not by accident that all these cops live together,,,, I stink up their hood, I'm a MMJ expert that testify against them and tell jury's there full of shit. I have largest seed bank in the world and they know it... And all this takes place in there back yard.Colorado sounds nice lol.they came here 6 years ago and i met them on my porch.ask if they had a warrant and said no but we can get one.so i politely reminded them i thought i was still in the usa and if they get a warrant i would gladly show them around.he asked how i knew they were here so quick and i pointed to my cams and let them know i stream it all live. Aint heard a pep from them since that day.but i did pay the cheif a visit that day and explained my deal and showed him my cards.cheif was cool and i think it has to do with how i acted,not cocky just an imformed citizen.bro that door coulda been breeched by a 120 pound kid,they make steel doors at home depot haha.sucks you get all that grief but im not sure i would grow if i had all that shit goin on around me as neighbors. Also want to note i asked why they were there.they had a complaint about the smell,and i told the cheif i would stay on that with better filtration
Did someone say reef tank!!!! Damn gurl I've been itching to break it back out and get up and running again. Just don't think I can handle it with work n garden tho. :( My ole lady says we are getting old gracefully, I say there aint nuthing graceful bout getting old. At least not for me anyway. :)The power companies had this ability long before the advent of smart meters. If you're in an area where this kind of usage can be used to prosecute you, get thee the ingredients for a reef tank now.
Hi guys.
The electricity company is coming out to replace the old analog meters. I've read they can potentially be bad for growers. Specifically people saying they can identify the signs of a potential grow.
All my tents probably total around 900 watts together.
I guess my question is...
Should this be my last grow until I get to a legal state?
Or is it no big deal for someone on such a small scale like me to worry?
Are there any digital electricity usage meter growers on this site in a hostile state that could instill some confidence in me?
The data your electric company collects stops at the meter, it does not go inside the house. The meter records the total amount of electricity used by the household. There's no way the company, or anyone else, to know how you are using the electricity inside your house.
Who's to say you aren't running a dehumidifier? The big ones take upwards of 800-900watts.
Or a saltwater aquarium setup. I had easily over 1000 watts running for 16hrs a day when I was really into the hobby. Never any issues.
You will occasionally get the electricity usage letters from your provider stating you use x amount of electricity compared to other homes Yada yada yada. As long as they get paid, on time. You should never have to worry. Even if you were using 2k worth of wattage.
Rest easy @rmoltis :)
There he is! I knew he worked for the man. LolNo longer Ruralman85
My job is a meter tech and I've heard everything about these meters. If you live in a state where the utility company allows you to opt out I would recommend doing so. There may be a one time cost of $50-100+ and likely a monthly fee of $10. I've had these meters where I've lived and had nothing go wrong but more recently I keep hearing that it increases the electric/gas bill. I have also heard from a co-worker that his smart meter somehow connected to his mobile hotspot. So I recommend that you opt out and pay the fees (it will cost you less in the long run); if you can lock up access to your meter (if they can't give you a digital smart meter they may give you a regular digital one that will still require a meter reader but may also affect your bill), and finally make sure your bill always says ACTUAL READ if it's estimated you may be getting screwed (try to convince your utility company to allow you to send in your own reading many do and you can learn how to read one online). Don't forget to do the same with your gas.
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