Do the old classic stack up against todays smoke?

[Malachi]

Do the old classics stack up against todays smoke?

We have all heard of the classics. Acopolco Gold, Columbian Gold, Thai Stick, Panama Red, Jamaican Lambsbread just to name a few. Then it all started with Sam the Skunkman and Sacred seeds, cannabis breeding with selected genetics. Over the years breeders have refined their stock and produced some amazing hybrids. You hear the argument all the time from prohibitionists that today's super plants are a lot more potent then the weed that "they" smoked in years past. My question; Is this true or is it just another ploy to keep marijuana out of society? I am only in my 30's so I don't recall any of the classics. I didn't start smoking until the 90's. Any older smokers out there your input would be great! Looking forward to hear what you think ...

 

[convex]

Hard to match the electric armchair roller coaster rides we used to get from Mezo American strains of yesteryear ... still searching though ;)

Cheers

 

[baba G]

Hey Malachi, the ole strains make up the NEW smoke! Just that so many more selections of phenos are around today so it's a mish mash and not as many pure landraces floating around....

 

[baba G]

But with the hybridizing many gems have come out, some with higher thc levels than others, but it all stems from the strains you mention and some others

 

[Trillion]

More like, do todays strains stack up to the old ones? Potency is no replacement for heirloom lines that have been worked for generations acclimatising to their local environment with years of selection etc.

I mean if superdawg kush bannana floats your boat then by all means but personally i prefer more subtlety and intricacy to the high. By far the nicest bud Ive ever smoked was some outdoor big sur holyweed (thats what i was sold it as) i purchased in santa barbara, their is no way you could smoke it and not be supremely happy and content within the moment.
Im young so am by no means an expert in the strains of old but i know what i like.

My two queen's pennys worth....

 

[nor cali farmer]

the true old colombo was the best.the paper would turn brown after 2 hits big thick heavy smokem couch log type. im an old stoner going on 40 yrs. peace thc joe

 

[convex]

Majority of strains back then were imported, grown under tropical sun - I believe the 'power' that these strains had were all due to grow location.

Cheers

 

[baba G]

A lot of folks are still acclimatising plants to their locale, some of the old strains are getting kept alive and refined and reworked and every blue moon a super special phenotype emerges, it may not be subtle enough or intricate enough for some, but a lot of the new stack up just fine to the old, it's the search for new aromas and flavors that i look forward to as opposed to glorifying the old hard to find strains....just my view, but trillion is right if you like it, smoke it!!

 

[baba G]

ps. a ton of old strains are out there but due to the new generation marketing of this herb the old strains tend to get renamed to compete with the new, even though they have been around for decades...

 

[baba G]

convex is right on it, location location location

 

[Malachi]

Thanks for the quick replies fellows. Seems like the consensus is that they do indeed stack up! I was talking to an older uncle about this last week while burning one down and he told me that the government has always been saying the same shit. That the "new" weed is not the smoke of yesteryear, like a broken record, a ploy trying to keep weed out of our hands. Like BabaG said the old strains make the new, so its the same genetics we have been smoking all along, just reinvented and rehybridized. Thanks for the input guys!

 

[Trillion]

ps. a ton of old strains are out there but due to the new generation marketing of this herb the old strains tend to get renamed to compete with the new, even though they have been around for decades...

Very true, people dont want South african sativa X Afghani
they want red magic headmash:giggle I prefer when the name gives more clues to the origins.

 

[baba G]

i learned not too put to much importance on a name, If you know your herb you can tell what strains it might be derived from by smell, look and flavor....Names are just lables and when they tell nothing of the strain you gotta use your senses...lol

 

[winta]

im a "lil" younger than u malachi so i feel u lol but i was blessed to try old school skunk and columbian gold and they do stack up! the skunk smell was soooo potent and put me on my ass and the gold had some real dense golden green nugs with a smooth sweet smoke. so imo the old school was just as dank as today and "the powers that be" are just using more of the scare tactics to keep this wonderful medicine from the masses so we can be doped up on painkillers and like kat williams says "lookin like a flammingo" from the side effects! thats my 2cents lol

 

[Malachi]

I have learned that names mean nothing. If you are educated enough you can tell what the genetics are simply by using your senses. I agree though that smoke has become more commercialized then ever, and I personally prefer a name that has characteristics of the strain. Shanti does a good job at using characteristics and origins when naming strains (with a few exceptions.)

 

[LordDankinstien]

I would say I guess the strains were there and the best of the old school would stack up fairly against our new strains.... But the availibilty of the really good strains back in the day was very low, all the old timers I smoke out have there minds blowen away by the potency of weed now. Im not saying there wasnt good weed back then but it was very small % of the people were able to smoke it compared to now. And the oldtimers that say otherwise are the ones lucky enough to be able to score the bombs back in the 70's and 80's. Who really knows though... I swear king and queens were smoking kush hundreds of years ago, it was saved and hored for them only.

 

[DaNkStA]

Of course thats a ploy! the way i see it is this, if you take two clones of the same strain and one you grow outdoors, dont really take care of it water it no nutes no protection. you take your other clone and you give it optimum conditions, c02, perfect temps, keep everything perfect the works. You are going to have results that vary greatly!!! now you go back 30-50 years ago and before that of course, all of the places where these famous strains were comeing from like Mexico, the middle east, Thailand, South America etc were growing like the first scenario in the mountains just letting nature take its course and cutting it down and of course it was good. Now fast forward to today and you have people growing who have all the knowlege of cannabis growing, hydroponic systems co2 injections, 1000 watt lights recreating nature in its perfect form no wind, no heat problems. no droughts, floods, or icey winters all controled by the switch of a button. In which you have weed that is alowed to produce at maximum out-put yield, smells and of course thc output and you have the weed of today.....its not that the weed is better or the strains are better we just have the knowlege of how to get it to perform at its best wich of course meens higher potency.

 

[Malachi]

I would say I guess the strains were there and the best of the old school would stack up fairly against our new strains.... But the availibilty of the really good strains back in the day was very low, all the old timers I smoke out have there minds blowen away by the potency of weed now. Im not saying there wasnt good weed back then but it was very small % of the people were able to smoke it compared to now. And the oldtimers that say otherwise are the ones lucky enough to be able to score the bombs back in the 70's and 80's. Who really knows though... I swear king and queens were smoking kush hundreds of years ago, it was saved and hored for them only.

Yea that makes since, with the internet, dispensaries, and seed banks it is much easier to get your hands on some dank strains these days.

 

[CAPO]

oldest found weed

2,700 year old high THC content, cultivated MJ found buried with a Chinese Gushi Shaman from Xinjiang.

2 elbows and still green!

 

[CAPO]

The first OG Kush!!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^