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Does this look like a good start to LST? its my first time trying it.

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Does this look like a good start to LST? its my first time trying it.

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Does this look like a good start to lst? This is my first time attempting to do it but I think I got the idea right.
 

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Looks good. I like to remove the first couple of popcorn producers as well.
 

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Looks good !! I personally would snip that top leaf that’s laying flat covering your lower shoots.
 
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Looks good !! I personally would snip that top leaf that’s laying flat covering your lower shoots.
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Alright, yeah, that makes perfect sense. Thank you
 
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why do you even LST an outdoor plant ... light penetration and dispersion do not decrease outdoor with the sun like indoor with artificial light.

there's very little point LSTing an outdoor plant aside grabbing some experience eventually ...
 
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I wouldn’t go so far as to say there’s Very little point in it !! Could be ya gotta keep em shorter to keep out of view or many other reasons. And you can get LOTS more top kolas on a single plant by doing so
 
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And you can get LOTS more top kolas on a single plant by doing so
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you must have never grown an healthy and vigorous untouched plant to think so ...

also i doubt height would be an issue with some autoflower, and if photoperiods topping would be a better option than LST outdoor to keep height under control.
 
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you must have never grown an healthy and vigorous untouched plant to think so ...

also i doubt height would be an issue with some autoflower, and if photoperiods topping would be a better option than LST outdoor to keep height under control.
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Nope never have I ever
 
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Have you ever LST a outdoor plant @HerbalEdu ? Years ago when i did 20+ plant gorilla grows and we weaved them through corn rows which were pretty close to a road. We'd bend them over and those side cola branches were 3ft to 5 ft tall. Sorry i'd show you but back then we did'nt advertise our grows but it can happen and still does with some folks who i know that do this type of growing still. 2nd generation small growers.
 
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why do you even LST an outdoor plant ... light penetration and dispersion do not decrease outdoor with the sun like indoor with artificial light.

there's very little point LSTing an outdoor plant aside grabbing some experience eventually ...
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Actually it is, yes growing Outdoors, but since it's an Autoflower it also has a light that turns on when it gets dark out so it's actually sitting under light 24/7.
 

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Cmurda48 said:
so it's actually sitting under light 24/7.
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Plants are exposed to a daily alternation between light and dark. Although growth in the light can be directly fueled by photosynthesis, in the dark it depends on stored carbohydrate. In many species, starch accumulates in the light and is broken down to provide sugars for metabolism and growth at night.

Plants don't sleep as such, but similar to when we sleep, metabolism is adjusted during the night to conserve energy for the big day ahead. Getting the timing of this day-night cycle right is really important because getting it wrong is detrimental to growth and survival.

In the process, plants take in carbon dioxide and release oxygen. No light, no photosynthesis. However, like us, plants respire nonstop, day and night, continually taking in oxygen and releasing carbon dioxide as they “burn” stored carbohydrates to fuel growth and the many metabolic functions needed to sustain life.

So, plants take in carbon dioxide from the atmosphere for preparing food. At night, photosynthesis does not occur hence they take in oxygen and give out carbon dioxide. Therefore, it is said that during the daytime, plants take in carbon dioxide and give out oxygen, and during the night it is vice-versa.

As plants 'exhale' during the night, they release oxygen back into the atmosphere. Meanwhile, the glucose accumulated during the day is used for growth, fueling the development of new leaves, stems, and flowers. This nightly cycle is crucial for plant health and development.
 
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Plants are exposed to a daily alternation between light and dark. Although growth in the light can be directly fueled by photosynthesis, in the dark it depends on stored carbohydrate. In many species, starch accumulates in the light and is broken down to provide sugars for metabolism and growth at night.

Plants don't sleep as such, but similar to when we sleep, metabolism is adjusted during the night to conserve energy for the big day ahead. Getting the timing of this day-night cycle right is really important because getting it wrong is detrimental to growth and survival.

In the process, plants take in carbon dioxide and release oxygen. No light, no photosynthesis. However, like us, plants respire nonstop, day and night, continually taking in oxygen and releasing carbon dioxide as they “burn” stored carbohydrates to fuel growth and the many metabolic functions needed to sustain life.

So, plants take in carbon dioxide from the atmosphere for preparing food. At night, photosynthesis does not occur hence they take in oxygen and give out carbon dioxide. Therefore, it is said that during the daytime, plants take in carbon dioxide and give out oxygen, and during the night it is vice-versa.

As plants 'exhale' during the night, they release oxygen back into the atmosphere. Meanwhile, the glucose accumulated during the day is used for growth, fueling the development of new leaves, stems, and flowers. This nightly cycle is crucial for plant health and development.
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Okay so what do you think my light interval should be then? Because there is too much shade covering my entire property at different times of the day that I can't just rely on the Sun itself to get the job done. I tried that 2 years ago and let's just say it was less than ideal.
 
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try 20/4 may be.

if your DLI is low outdoor due to the shade across the day try complementing to 20hour with artifical lights and let it sleep 4hour so it can use the sugar accumulated during the day.

I think Mikedin shared a timelapse video a while back, where you see growth is noticeably more vigorous at night than during the day.

(you may also turn your light on during the shade hours, that may help with DLI.)
 
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on a side note i would be worried with unexpected rain at night with such a set up.
 
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