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Ok thanks. I never saw one in the flower box. So they didn’t get sprayed in there. I scoped n saw nothing. The veg n flower are on opposite sides of house. I was more wanting to put predators in in case a stray or 2 found thier way to the flower box. Want to shut em down before it’s a population of em.
The only product I use "late" in flower for mites is essential oils. I mentioned the wrong brand before, so I posted it above in this post. Notice the "organic" part? That means they use no pesticides, which would cause your product to fail testing when spraying this late.
As for not seeing any bugs in the flower room. I would be floored if you eradicated the flower room with the pesticides you used.
O yea, veg rooms should get sulfur. Becoming the industry standard for fighting mites.
As for predators, you have to call you bug guy and ask. https://www.arbico-organics.com/category/beneficial-insects-predators-parasites is the company I use. He will put together a plan for releases, and what bugs should be used in your tent considering RH and temps.
For next year:
Beneficial bug release early
Sulfur sprays followed by beneficial bug releases.
Then before flower, hit them with a round of pesticides. I like Grandevo, then Venerate, then essential oils. This knocks down any possible populations.
After a couple days for the last rounds of sprays to mild out, then release more beneficial bugs.
Then one last time before flower.
That is my schedule at least. Mixed in with some stronger AG products.
I wasn’t trying to be an ass. Just I think they’re different. They’re tge 2 worse mites I think though. And both known to 187 a growroomExcuse me. Broad mites.
They drink pyrethrum for breakfast.
Hmm they did green back up after raising ph. But I also added to feed so I can’t say for sure what helped. I’m running 6.2 now though.
When ever I use a Phosphorus boost I get a Zinc def similar to what you have, don't know why? But a higher PH seems to be the way to sort it.
This is a helpful chart in that aspect.
One last attempt at a kill shot. I got something I’d bet no one has ever tried.
Difference between ethyl and iso?
I know iso spray kills em on contact.(According to google) Eggs too.
Tincture of Green soap tattoo soap (30% ethyl alcohol by volume , sterile water, lavender oil.)
And I’ll add drops of Rosemary mint n tea tree oils. Once I google the drop ratios. And water.
Might run scope across flower again today.
Obviously before I go near veg.
Yeah imma try on the ones I know are gone. I’m also getting foggers. Not dr doom I’m gonna get the real ones From what I read the bastards life cycle is only 8 days or so. I just got to try n save the flower. Right now it’s lookinDon’t know man, all i hear is they’re a bitch to get rid off. I guess it will not hurt but can you get rid of them completely?
As far as iso and ethyl, i think the mode of action has something to do with stripping the oils from the pests exoskeleton which makes it suffocate but don’t take my word for it. I’m just getting bits and pieces together in my mind at the moment :D
Yeah imma try on the ones I know are gone. I’m also getting foggers. Not dr doom I’m gonna get the real ones From what I read the bastards life cycle is only 8 days or so. I just got to try n save the flower. Right now it’s lookin View attachment 848040 View attachment 848041 View attachment 848042 View attachment 848043
Thanks.Sending you good vibes :)
No fogger in room that is infected. Not flower flower predators only. Calm down you done gone crazy. And this is broad mites first pic is my microscope. 2nd is google. Not trying to be an ass and I appreciate your help. But I do got broads.Are you seriously considering using a pesticide fogger on flowering plants without even confirming a diagnosis through scoping?
Jesus man. Scope the damn plants.
These plants do not have broad mites. You probably had some sort of pH issue that seems to be partially resolved. Your tops would not have buds in them if you had broads.
Don't EVER assume you have an infestation and spray until you've confirmed it. That's just common sense.
Are you seriously considering using a pesticide fogger on flowering plants without even confirming a diagnosis through scoping?
Jesus man. Scope the damn plants.
These plants do not have broad mites. You probably had some sort of pH issue that seems to be partially resolved. Your tops would not have buds in them if you had broads.
Don't EVER assume you have an infestation and spray until you've confirmed it. That's just common sense.
I know I need the californicus from what I read for my climates. It eats em. I definately been looking at predators. I can get a egg of praying mantis ( says like 100 babies but obviously I don’t need half that) for 8.99 shipped. I’m thinking will they stay alive in tent ? That’s all around bug control.Monsta, good to hear you figured out whats up. I would highly recommend that insetting out on next crop rotation that you invest in some predatory mites known to eat broads. I say this even if you nuked everything to kingdom com. Use early in your cycle.
Biological control of broad mite involves preventative releases of the predatory mites, Neoseiulus cucumeris and N. californicus and Amblyseius swirskii. It is critical to apply these predatory mites early on in the crop production cycle before broad mite populations become established. Consult a biological control supplier to determine the appropriate release rates.
https://www.arbico-organics.com/category/beneficial-insects-predators-parasites?msclkid=069902b4f6b419c988b95e928e250ff9&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Beneficial Insects&utm_term=beneficial insects&utm_content=Beneficial Insects
Use any reputable reasonably priced suppliers like the one I posted. They have excellent tech services to help the grower as to which beneficial best suites their grow zone/environment/issue.I know I need the californicus from what I read for my climates. It eats em. I definately been looking at predators. I can get a egg of praying mantis ( says like 100 babies but obviously I don’t need half that) for 8.99 shipped. I’m thinking will they stay alive in tent ? That’s all around bug control.
I been saying predators. Thanks for reply. I was looking for just that. A list that targets my issue. I know californicus does but $$. I can easily get the neoselius thing. Amazon prime. There should be a thread here jumpincactus
You should make a beneficial bug thread for people to get right info on exactly which ones are best for thier circumstances. There’s a million bugs n amazon don’t clear list what they do. Searching here gives random answers. but if you made a thread everyone be able to go the bug thread target their issue before it gets bad
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