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Droopy Plants

MonsterRobot Mar 16, 2013 14 Replies 52,389 Views
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MonsterRobot

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Hey Everyone,

As you can see from the pictures, my plants are droopy and the leaves are curling up like fists almost. I am not sure what is causing this.

They were just moved into a new room (but I have flowered in the room numerous times) with new bulbs and they went from a flood and drain table to a top drip system. They went from a 1k MH that was dimmed to 750w and were moved under new 1k HPS bulbs. There shouldn't have been any transplant shock since they were just in net pots and were dropped right into a bigger pot with more hydroton. I have done this many times and never seen this problem before.

My temps are at about 72F and the get down to 65F when lights are off. Water temps are at 70F and there is plenty of air being pumped in there. Humidity is sitting right around 55%.

They were being fed about 1000 ppm of food in veg and were perky. I moved them to the new room and the ppm was raised (which I always do) to about 1300. It might have been too big of a jump for them but they were pretty established plants so they should have been able to handle it. I have grown these particular strains for a while now and that isn't something that would usually effect them.

There are no pests or molds or anything like that and the roots are white and healthy...

They have been this way for about 2 days. I have raised the lights and am now flushing just in case.

Anyone ever seen anything like this? Sorry for the shitty pics...

Thanks,
MonsterRobot
 

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mastacheeser

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Id have to guess it has something to do with the transplant.

After a good flush bring the ppms back to 600-800. Dont get carried away flushing, leaving dem bitches hungry aint good
 
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looks waterlogged to me. if you start seeing a bunch of deficiencies that is most likely the case.
 
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overwatered IMO
 
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I don't know what this is, but I don't think you can overwater hydroton. In my experience, even constant-feed systems have never given the kind of problems you're having here.
 
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MonsterRobot said:
Hey Everyone,

As you can see from the pictures, my plants are droopy and the leaves are curling up like fists almost. I am not sure what is causing this.

They were just moved into a new room (but I have flowered in the room numerous times) with new bulbs and they went from a flood and drain table to a top drip system. They went from a 1k MH that was dimmed to 750w and were moved under new 1k HPS bulbs. There shouldn't have been any transplant shock since they were just in net pots and were dropped right into a bigger pot with more hydroton. I have done this many times and never seen this problem before.

My temps are at about 72F and the get down to 65F when lights are off. Water temps are at 70F and there is plenty of air being pumped in there. Humidity is sitting right around 55%.

They were being fed about 1000 ppm of food in veg and were perky. I moved them to the new room and the ppm was raised (which I always do) to about 1300. It might have been too big of a jump for them but they were pretty established plants so they should have been able to handle it. I have grown these particular strains for a while now and that isn't something that would usually effect them.

There are no pests or molds or anything like that and the roots are white and healthy...

They have been this way for about 2 days. I have raised the lights and am now flushing just in case.

Anyone ever seen anything like this? Sorry for the shitty pics...

Thanks,
MonsterRobot
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pH?
 
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cut back on your waterings.over watered IMO
 
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im gonna say ph could be the factor as well..........i have noticed this when ph is off as well! just a thought!
 
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squiggly said:
pH?
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The PH is in the range of 5.6-6.2 at all times... Usually right around 5.8
 
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I don't think it is overwatering... I used to run my plants on constant drip and had no problems...
 
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Here are some common problems when marijuana leaves are curling.
  1. Too much marijuana fertilizer
    The most common cause of marijuana leaf cupping aka leaf margin rolling, leaf margin burn, and leaf tip curl/burn is overzealous use of marijuana plant food. In relationship to factors such as marijuana plant vigour and rate of growth. Leaf burn is often the very first sign of too much marijuana fertilizer. A hard, crispy feel to the marijuana leaf frequently occurs as well, as opposed to a soft and cool feel of a happy pot leaf. Back off on the amount and/or frequency of using marijuana fertilizer. Too much marijuana fertilizer can also burn the roots, especially the sensitive root tips, which then creates another set of problems. Note - as soil dries, the concentration of the remaining salts rises further exacerbating the problem.

  1. High Heat
    The marijuana plant is losing water via it’s leaves faster than what can be replaced by the root system. The marijuana leaf responds by leaf margin cupping or rolling up or down (most times up) in order to conserve moisture. A good example is reflected by the appearance of broad-bladed turf grass on a hot summer day, high noon, with low soil moisture levels - the leaf blade will roll upward/inward with the grass taking on a dull, greyish-green appearance. Upon sunrise when moisture levels have returned to normal, the leaf blade will be flat. Lower the heat in the marijuana grow-op and concentrate on developing a large robust root system. An efficient and effective root system will go a long way to prevent heat induced pot leaf desiccation or marijuana leaf margin curling. One short episode of high heat is enough to permanently disable or destroy leaf tissue and cause a general decline in the leaves affected, which often occurs to leaves found at the top of the cannabis plant. The damaged pot leaf (usually) does not fully recover, no matter what you do. Bummer in the summer. One can only look to new growth for indications that the problem has been corrected.

  1. Too much light
    Yes, it’s true, you can give your marijuana plant too much light. Cannabis does not receive full sun from sunrise to sunset in its natural state. It is shaded or given reduced light levels because of adjacent plant material, cloudy conditions, rain, dust, twilight periods in the morning and late afternoon, and light intensity changes caused by a change in the seasons. Too much light mainly serves to bleach out and destroy chlorophyll as opposed to causing marijuana leaf cupping, but it often goes hand-in-hand with high heat for indoor marijuana growers. Turn down the time when the lights on in your marijuana grow room. If you're using a 24 hr cycle, turn it down to 20 hrs. Those on 18 - 6 marijuana growth cycle can turn their lights down two or three hours. Too much light can have many adverse effects on marijuana plants. Concentrate on developing/maintaining an efficient and robust root system.

  1. Over Watering
    For marijuana growers using soil, this practice only serves to weaken the root system by depriving the roots of proper gas exchange. The marijuana plants roots are not getting enough oxygen which creates an anerobic condition inducing root rot and root decline with the end result showing up as leaf stress, stunted growth, and in severe cases, death. Over watering creates a perfect environment for damp-off disease, at, or below the soil line. Many times marijuana growers believe their cannabis plant is not getting enough marijuana fertilizers (which it can't under such adverse conditions), so they add more marijuana fertilizers. Making the problem worst. Not better. Often problem 1 and 4 go together. Too much marijuana fertilizer combined with too much water. Creating plenty of marijuana plant problems.

  1. Not Enough Water
    Not only is the marijuana plant now stressed due to a low supply of adequate moisture, but carbohydrate production has been greatly compromised (screwed up). Step up the watering frequency, and if need be, organic marijuana growers may need to water from the bottom up until moisture levels reach a norm throughout the medium. One of the best methods in determining whether a marijuana plant requires watering is lifting the pots. The pots should be light to lift before a water session. After watering the marijuana plants lift the pots to get an understanding how heavy they've become fully watered. If the pot feels light to the lift - it’s time to water. Don’t wait until the soil pulls away from the side of the pot before watering. And of course, leach, once in a while to get rid of excess salts. These are the five most common problems marijuana growers encounter when growing cannabis. Correcting the problems early will save the marijuana plants, but may reduce overall yield. With practice and experience these problems are easily overcome which will then enable the marijuana grower to produce fantastic marijuana plants. With heavy yields.
 
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Do they perk back up when the lights come on? Are these night time photos? Any early yellowing?
 
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They were like that 24/7 for about a week... I gave them a flush, raised the lights, put them on constant drip instead of 4x a day and they are perking back up now... I am pretty sure that it was just caused by stressing them out, burning them a little bit, and having too intense of light or something.

They are on the road to recovery though so that is good!

Thanks for the replies everyone!
 
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How they look now
 
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They look great! I ended up switching to RO water and things have taken a huge turn for the better! They are eating a ton of food and have all perked up. About 8 days into bloom now.
Thanks for asking and I will add some pics sometime soon.
 
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