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Drying to drowning Help please

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My pink kush on day 50 and I’m struggling to get my water under control. She’ll go fresh being under and after small feed, 1/2 gallon she’ll show signs of being overwater then over after watering. i’m growing Foxfarm happy frog in a 5 gallon fabric pot. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Two ways . Pick up the pot if its heavy its wet.
My way . Bad back OCCONER .. Put your finger into the soil Push in a few inches deep.
If your finger collects any moisture at all do not water . 5 gallon pot half gall on water all at once . Do not use less water then that .
Always half gallon water all at once and do the finger trick . Other then that just be patient wait it will dry up soon .
If your in a rush well replant it . So is the pot heavy ? What does the finger trick tell you ?
EDITED .do the half gallon water first . Check the soil in two days . If the soil is dry you can adjust to 1 gallon of water . You will be good to go next week and the plant will look better . Look how pissed it looks right now.
 
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I grow organic so I have to keep my soil moist always. I use an ecowit moisture meter. When it gets down to 35% I add water I try and stay between 35 and 45%
 
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Foster823 said:
My pink kush on day 50 and I’m struggling to get my water under control. She’ll go fresh being under and after small feed, 1/2 gallon she’ll show signs of being overwater then over after watering. i’m growing Foxfarm happy frog in a 5 gallon fabric pot. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
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Pickup the pot its so easy to tell if they need water if its light and the leaves have slight droop its Rainday
If its inbetween dig a little in the soil with your finger to find out how wet it is just 2-3 cm deep
If it takes too long to dry give less
 
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A few weeks ago after repotting into 50/50 happy frog and ocean forest all 3 plants soon began showing issues...light green new growth, clawing leaves, followed by chlorosis on lower leaves. They were angry. Did a flush and found high ppm and low ph. Called fox farms and they emailed me a procedure for a quick dirty soil ph slurry test. If you still have leftover mix I'd recommend testing to eliminate ph lockout as the culprit. 2 tests. A 1:1 and a 1:5. 1:1=1 part soil and 1 part distilled water. 1:5= 1 part soil and 5 parts distilled water. Mix well and let stand for 15 minutes. (I've heard to leave for 24 hrs but not in fox farms instructions) then test with an accurate calibrated tester. The 1:1 should read between 5.0 and 6.3. The 1:5 should read between 5.6 and 6.6. If outside these ranges they suggest making adjustments to the mix. In my case it was lime to raise ph. My 1:1 read 4.2 and don't remember what my 1:5 was but it was also low. I flushed with higher phed water till my runoff was around 6.0 and ppm below 600. (My water is 150 ppm) last input was a light dose of nutes around ph 6.6. I've since upped my feed/water ph to 6.5 and I did top dress with 1 tbsp dolomite lime spread over the next few waterings to finally equal 1 tbsp/gal of soil. Plants perked up and prayed ever since. Worth mentioning here the radical flush I suspect washed nitrogen out as over the next week or so I noticed lightening green. Upping my micro dosage over the next few feedings has reversed that issue. I've since learned that nitrogen let's go the easiest in a flush situation so timely replacement is a good idea.
 
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½ gallon of water for a 5 gallon pot is actually too little water... what want to aim for is using 20% of your pot size... Ideally that's exactly 1 gallon of water for 5 gallon plant... furthermore aim to water every 3 days....
 
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I have used fox farm regiment for years... not using them anymore... but easy process to follow is to cut their dosages in half.... when small plants in veg I'll start with 1ml of whatever they call for and over a few weeks I'll max it out to 50% of full dosage
 
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A few weeks ago after repotting into 50/50 happy frog and ocean forest all 3 plants soon began showing issues...light green new growth, clawing leaves, followed by chlorosis on lower leaves. They were angry. Did a flush and found high ppm and low ph. Called fox farms and they emailed me a procedure for a quick dirty soil ph slurry test. If you still have leftover mix I'd recommend testing to eliminate ph lockout as the culprit. 2 tests. A 1:1 and a 1:5. 1:1=1 part soil and 1 part distilled water. 1:5= 1 part soil and 5 parts distilled water. Mix well and let stand for 15 minutes. (I've heard to leave for 24 hrs but not in fox farms instructions) then test with an accurate calibrated tester. The 1:1 should read between 5.0 and 6.3. The 1:5 should read between 5.6 and 6.6. If outside these ranges they suggest making adjustments to the mix. In my case it was lime to raise ph. My 1:1 read 4.2 and don't remember what my 1:5 was but it was also low. I flushed with higher phed water till my runoff was around 6.0 and ppm below 600. (My water is 150 ppm) last input was a light dose of nutes around ph 6.6. I've since upped my feed/water ph to 6.5 and I did top dress with 1 tbsp dolomite lime spread over the next few waterings to finally equal 1 tbsp/gal of soil. Plants perked up and prayed ever since. Worth mentioning here the radical flush I suspect washed nitrogen out as over the next week or so I noticed lightening green. Upping my micro dosage over the next few feedings has reversed that issue. I've since learned that nitrogen let's go the easiest in a flush situation so timely replacement is a good idea.
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I just flipped her yesterday should I hold off until I resolve the issue?
 
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I just flipped her yesterday should I hold off until I resolve the issue?
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IMO, yes. It's better to flip when the plants are healthy.
 
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The yellowed new growth makes me think the soil is too wet. So do the drooping and puffy leaves. So, if being too wet for too long is the problem, letting the soil dry should help. That means not watering again for quite a while, perhaps as long as a week.
 
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The yellowed new growth makes me think the soil is too wet. So do the drooping and puffy leaves. So, if being too wet for too long is the problem, letting the soil dry should help. That means not watering again for quite a while, perhaps as long as a week.
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I’m going let her get bone dry. I actually do measure by unit. I know when the plant is weighing around 9 pounds is when I usually feed. That’s what is what I’m struggling. The pot is heavy but the plant still looks underwater and then when I add no more than a half a gallon, she perks back up for a day or two and then right back to being droopy. The pot never gets below 11 pounds. It looks like she needs feeding but the pot still heavy. my initial question was a bit scattered all over the place . thank you everyone for all the input and feedback. also here’s my latest pic just taking minutes ago.
 

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How much light are you giving your transplants? I've had good results getting the plants to bounce back quickly if I lower the intensity for a few days after I up pot.

From what you've posted I'm going to say that the plants got stunted.

My advice would be to raise your lights or lower your dimmer and give them a few days to recover. The plant probably feels heavy because it's not pulling water from the perched water table your soil has so the top half of your soil will get dry but with nothing pulling water from the PWT it still feels heavy.

This won't be as much of a problem once your transplants bounce back and push more roots into the new PWT you created when you up potted.
 
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You didn't accidentally compact your soil to much correct? Just didn't know if by chance it's retaining water somewhere it can't breath and dry out as well.

I use 50/50 Happy Frog and Ocean Forest in 3 gallon, plants take a quart of water every single day. I'm sure I could up the water and wait every other or something but right now they seem to like what I'm doing.
 
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