Ez Veg and Ez bloom

Tnelz · May 16, 2014

What's up farmers. I was gifted these nutrients from a brother on the farm. He was nice enough to gift me a sample of his nutrients before they hit the market so now that I have some seedlings entering veg I figured I'd start the thread. First and foremost thanks for the love @Coir so far things couldn't be easier. So basically the system is simple there is a veg and bloom a and u use the same b for both. I am growing two Tahoe OG bx in Coco. One is a Coco perlite mix and the other is Coco rice hull mixture. So the plant on the far right and front left corner are getting these nutrients. the one in the tray on the front left looks like it has some burn but it doesn't I sprayed them last night with some harpin protein and it's a little residue. I'll spray with some plain water tonight and get some better pics. That's it for now. This will end up being a log so I can show case @Coirs nutes so if a mod wants to move it it's all good! .

burn4me · May 16, 2014

how long has it been since introduced? what ppm of suggested dose of each, grow & bloom? hope its sweet shit for you. good luck

Tnelz · May 16, 2014

burn4me said:
how long has it been since introduced? what ppm of suggested dose of each, grow & bloom? hope its sweet shit for you. good luck

Honestly not even checking the ppm. Following recommended dosage. They have been fed about 4 times with 1/2 strength which is 1/2 tsp a and 1/4 tsp b and twice at full strength which is 1 tsp a 1/2 tsp b. No suggested ppm just amount and the brother who made it advised me to go ahead and run full strength in Coco. So far so good. More later!

Tnelz · May 16, 2014

So burn it's been introduced d for a week today.

burn4me · May 16, 2014

ok i see. how you running it? is your schedule feed/feed/water? i guess in coco its watered every other day? sorry im just curious as to how you run em. guess its off to diaries to see.:D

Coir · May 21, 2014

How are things going?

Tnelz · May 31, 2014

burn4me said:
ok i see. how you running it? is your schedule feed/feed/water? i guess in coco its watered every other day? sorry im just curious as to how you run em. guess its off to diaries to see.:D

Sorry for taking a minute to get back here. Life has me running all over. Lol. I water with feed everyday. In bloom it will probably be twice. I run dtw with about 20% runoff. Also fed a weekly tea and using OG special sauce as a top dress the day I feed my tea.

Power OG · May 31, 2014

about to start my log with these nutes myself! running it my coco hempys, thankyou @Coir again bro. so tnelzs how are you liking EZ veg & bloom my brother?
respect
TMB

Tnelz · May 31, 2014

burn4me said:
ok i see. how you running it? is your schedule feed/feed/water? i guess in coco its watered every other day? sorry im just curious as to how you run em. guess its off to diaries to see.:D

Also drip clean. I flush once before flip and that's it till final flush. That is unless I run into issues.

Tnelz · May 31, 2014

Power OG said:
about to start my log with these nutes myself! running it my coco hempys, thankyou @Coir again bro. so tnelzs how are you liking EZ veg & bloom my brother?
respect
TMB

I'll be posting more here soon. Just been busy. Like them so far. Having a bit of a mag issue but that should be easy to turn around. Lol. I'll be posting here soon.

Power OG · May 31, 2014

burn4me said:
ok i see. how you running it? is your schedule feed/feed/water? i guess in coco its watered every other day? sorry im just curious as to how you run em. guess its off to diaries to see.:D

from what im gathering in coco its never just water brother burn, its always a light feed or a tea unless you are flushing, maybe wrong. Tnelzs will know

burn4me · Jun 1, 2014

Tnelz said:
Sorry for taking a minute to get back here. Life has me running all over. Lol. I water with feed everyday. In bloom it will probably be twice. I run dtw with about 20% runoff. Also fed a weekly tea and using OG special sauce as a top dress the day I feed my tea.

Tnelz said:
Also drip clean. I flush once before flip and that's it till final flush. That is unless I run into issues.

no problem homie. i figured when you had the time youd give an answer. ok im getting it. i really didnt think it was fed every day! i can see watered everyday because of it being like hydro in a way. so you just feed it with whatever strength nutes you're at everyday? damn thats a lot of feed. And thanks for taking time to shoot an answer to me brother. i know not everyone is an old lame like me, always on here or something. but hey, admitting i have the problem is step 1 right? lol thanks again

Coir · Jun 1, 2014

Coco is pretty forgiving and there is a very wide range of acceptable levels of nutrient and pH where the plants will grow. The idea though is to keep those levels optimal for the particular crop 24/7. Depending on the crop or strain, you might find as much as a 1000ppm difference between what that level is. For the most part, I keep my input level constant and adjust watering frequency on an as needed basis. You do need to be careful not to let the coir get too dry though. Because of it's properties, it's very difficult to overwater coir as long as you have good drainage and the plants are not sitting in standing water. I monitor the runoff to tell how things are going in the root zone. If the runoff levels are high, using a longer irrigation cycle or pouring more feed/water and allowing more runoff(30-40%) will usually bring it back to where I want it. If levels are low reducing the amount of runoff will raise them. In a commercial sized operation, it's much simpler to adjust watering cycles than to constantly be changing the feed ratio of the injectors. In a smaller hand watered operation, you can much more easily increase or decrease the strength of the nutrient solution being applied which may be more economical. I still recommend checking the runoff after each watering and taking notes so you can adjust accordingly for the next watering/feeding. It also lets you know ahead of time(before the plant shows signs of a problem) if something needs to be changed. It is also not uncommon to see different levels from plant to plant in the same room getting the same amounts of water and feed which is why good note taking really is important! During periods of rapid vegetative growth, I have seen runoff levels drop considerably even with normal input feed levels and raising the feed ppm until it stabilizes keeps the plants from showing any deficiencies. If you see that the runoff ppm's are too high(usually caused by letting go too long between irrigation cycles) you can use straight water to quickly bring the levels back down to acceptable ranges without harming anything. The larger the plant and the smaller the container, the more difficult it will be to keep everything in balance and the more frequently you will need to be watering/feeding and checking the runoff. I have seen full sized plants wilt terribly when drip emitters clogged and the pots completely dried out. Pouring gallons of water over the coir, the first runoff came out over 4000ppm but rapidly decreased back to where it should be which is one of the great things about using coir. It is easy to re-wet after being too dry and easy to flush excess nutrients and bring back into balance. The effected plants had a few burned leaves at the top but quickly recovered and produced normally.
Factors that will effect frequency and strength of the feeding/watering cycles are quite numerous so there really isn't a set formula to give and every grow will require fine tuning. Daytime temps, night time temps, RH, light intensity, pot size, plant size, plant age, and even strain will all come into play.

burn4me · Jun 1, 2014

Coir said:
Coco is pretty forgiving and there is a very wide range of acceptable levels of nutrient and pH where the plants will grow. The idea though is to keep those levels optimal for the particular crop 24/7. Depending on the crop or strain, you might find as much as a 1000ppm difference between what that level is. For the most part, I keep my input level constant and adjust watering frequency on an as needed basis. You do need to be careful not to let the coir get too dry though. Because of it's properties, it's very difficult to overwater coir as long as you have good drainage and the plants are not sitting in standing water. I monitor the runoff to tell how things are going in the root zone. If the runoff levels are high, using a longer irrigation cycle or pouring more feed/water and allowing more runoff(30-40%) will usually bring it back to where I want it. If levels are low reducing the amount of runoff will raise them. In a commercial sized operation, it's much simpler to adjust watering cycles than to constantly be changing the feed ratio of the injectors. In a smaller hand watered operation, you can much more easily increase or decrease the strength of the nutrient solution being applied which may be more economical. I still recommend checking the runoff after each watering and taking notes so you can adjust accordingly for the next watering/feeding. It also lets you know ahead of time(before the plant shows signs of a problem) if something needs to be changed. It is also not uncommon to see different levels from plant to plant in the same room getting the same amounts of water and feed which is why good note taking really is important! During periods of rapid vegetative growth, I have seen runoff levels drop considerably even with normal input feed levels and raising the feed ppm until it stabilizes keeps the plants from showing any deficiencies. If you see that the runoff ppm's are too high(usually caused by letting go too long between irrigation cycles) you can use straight water to quickly bring the levels back down to acceptable ranges without harming anything. The larger the plant and the smaller the container, the more difficult it will be to keep everything in balance and the more frequently you will need to be watering/feeding and checking the runoff. I have seen full sized plants wilt terribly when drip emitters clogged and the pots completely dried out. Pouring gallons of water over the coir, the first runoff came out over 4000ppm but rapidly decreased back to where it should be which is one of the great things about using coir. It is easy to re-wet after being too dry and easy to flush excess nutrients and bring back into balance. The effected plants had a few burned leaves at the top but quickly recovered and produced normally.
Factors that will effect frequency and strength of the feeding/watering cycles are quite numerous so there really isn't a set formula to give and every grow will require fine tuning. Daytime temps, night time temps, RH, light intensity, pot size, plant size, plant age, and even strain will all come into play.

Nice info drop. I really appreciate that. Damn i may have it wrong but seems like coco may be better overall for a noob like me. Thanks again

Power OG · Jun 1, 2014

great read @Coir, im starting use and thread this week.

Tnelz · Jun 1, 2014

burn4me said:
Nice info drop. I really appreciate that. Damn i may have it wrong but seems like coco may be better overall for a noob like me. Thanks again

Coco is crazy easy. Just rinse charge and keep ur pH in check. But it's not without its head aches. So goes life though right. Lol. If u do mess something up its easily corrected.

Kushy Haze · Oct 21, 2015

Do any if you know about blue planet nutrients, and coir.?

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