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OP makes it clear - the problem is way over watering and bad nutrient selection.

Roadkill explains the water problem.

But you can’t feed a plant a shit ton of P (which it doesn’t need) with no N in veg (or bloom) and not expect your plant to yellow.

IMO the entire bloom feed is a bunch of B.S. to sell bottles of junk you don’t need. No need to get all hung up on numbers, but generally a ratio of ~2–1-3 NPK should get you through a grow without wasting money on silly sweeteners, sugar, or “candy”.
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Also PK boosters do help, youre ignorant honestly. Even with full ammendments I use PK booster with palm tree ash and bat guano, I dont know what youre growing but thats not top shelf stuff.
 
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Let me be more specific, your plants have more PK demand after stretching after the 3rd week of flower. Adding more nitrogen will only help calcium intake, thats the ONLY reason some bloom nutrients have equal ammounts of nitrogen than potassium. But calmags come with nitrogen, and NPK liquids that have calcium come with more nitrogen, so you wouldnt know if you dont know the science.
 
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Im okay with people questioning or ignoring some of my suggestions, but you just plain destroyed science in one post, Im not gonna let you give bad advice.
 
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Sensi ph perfect comes with all the nitrogen you need for calmag because part A is CALMAG. Part B is the PK and has barely any nitrogen. Please seriously, if you dont know, dont talk.
 
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Show your flowers without carbs and I can show you a flower twice as big with carbs, its a dare.
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Sure, post on up.







 
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Sure, post on up.

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Respectable but you need some carbs my brother. Those flowers could be much bigger trust me.
 
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Is not mandatory, you can still grow good weed without carbs, they wont be as fat and as full of trichomes though.
 
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Also youre growing outdoors, do you use any organic ammendment? Because kelp has cabohydrates.
 
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Sensi ph perfect comes with all the nitrogen you need for calmag because part A is CALMAG. Part B is the PK. Please seriously, if you dont know, dont talk.
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I'll never use Sensi pH perfect. I promise you that. I'm happy with my results with the product line I use.

Earlier you spoke about feeding your plants carbs. Plants don't consume carbs. When you add carbs to your soil, you're feeding microbes. The microbes then feed your plants ... This is where you keep running into resistance to your ideas. You're only getting half of what you're saying right. Plants do not eat carbs!
 
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I'll never use Sensi pH perfect. I promise you that. I'm happy with my results with the product line I use.

Earlier you spoke about feeding your plants carbs. Plants don't consume carbs. When you add carbs to your soil, you're feeding microbes. The microbes then feed your plants ... This is where you keep running into resistance to your ideas. You're only getting half of what you're saying right. Plants do not eat carbs!
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Thats not true hahaha. I feed carbs in veg for microbes but bud candy has the specific carbs that your flowers use to fatten. Do a quick google search seriously...
For microbes I feed molasses, for bud fattening I use bud candy, and it makes a difference.
 
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bud candy sorry* not big bud.
 
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Why would you never use sensi ph perfect? Its the best non organic line as it comes with all chelated minerals and humic and fulvic acids and calmag. Name a brand that is not organic that is as complete.
 
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Okay second best non organic line, athena is better but way more expensive and its a mixture of organic and bio-mineral.
 
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I mean I already showed you a flower twice as big before you posted hahaha. I dont mean to be a pain in the ass but seriously... buds use a lot of carbs when fattening, thats why they rely on your suggar leaves and not fan leaves anymore after week 3 of flower.
 
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Thats not true hahaha. I feed carbs in veg for microbes but bud candy has the specific carbs that your flowers use to fatten. Do a quick google search seriously...
For microbes I feed molasses, for bud fattening I use bud candy, and it makes a difference.
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No, that isn't how it works. Your plants don't have a mechanism to feed directly off carbohydrates.
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Why would you never use sensi ph perfect? Its the best non organic line as it comes with all chelated minerals and humic and fulvic acids. Name a brand that is not organic that is as complete.
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Because its over-priced. It has nothing to do with the product itself. It's why I use armor si' instead of power si'. I refuse to pay the premium that power si' costs and I feel for my own home grows, armor si' is sufficient in the cost vs benefit analysis.

Here's the thing though ... I do use sweetners. Mine are not organic. They are potassium sulfate products and they provide the same benefit but skip the organic part of the process. I find salts based nutrients give me consistent and reliable results. It's why I switched because I used to be 100% organic in my grow methods. Since I've done both, I can clearly say my yields are much higher using synthetics. You also wouldn't be able to tell the difference in a blind taste test.

If you were to say to me, "I'm an organic grower because for me it fits me as a person." I could completely respect that. To tell me that organic farming is superior? Well, that's your opinion and I don't agree. I don't think either method is superior to the other. I use what I use because it fits me. So please, let's stop all this nonsense. I'll never tell you to stop being an organic grower ... deal?

If we really want to help the OP, the watering problem must be addressed right now. The nutrient line is a matter of personal preference. Most grows are over-fed, over-watered, and over-lighted anyway so you're probably right about too many nutrients. The watering issue still remains issue #1 regardless of anything else that is said.
 
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"No, that isn't how it works. Your plants don't have a mechanism to feed directly off carbohydrates."
Wrong, plants do absorb carbs through the roots.

Because its over-priced. It has nothing to do with the product itself. It's why I use armor si' instead of power si'. I refuse to pay the premium that power si' costs and I feel for my own home grows, armor si' is sufficient in the cost vs benefit analysis.
Now youre talking about silicon. Silicon dioxide is way more expensive because potassium silicate creates salts.

If you were to say to me, "I'm an organic grower because for me it fits me as a person." I could completely respect that. To tell me that organic farming is superior? Well, that's your opinion and I don't agree. I don't think either method is superior to the other. I use what I use because it fits me. So please, let's stop all this nonsense. I'll never tell you to stop being an organic grower ... deal?

I never said its superior, but kelp and other ammendments bring things like aminoacids, vitamins and hormones that synthetic fertilizers cant. So yes, many times organic is better, unless youre looking only for dry weight.
 
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"If we really want to help the OP, the watering problem must be addressed right now. The nutrient line is a matter of personal preference. Most grows are over-fed, over-watered, and over-lighted anyway so you're probably right about too many nutrients. The watering issue still remains issue #1 regardless of anything else that is said."
I has been adressed already, 2 times hahaha
 
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"No, that isn't how it works. Your plants don't have a mechanism to feed directly off carbohydrates."
Wrong, plants do absorb carbs through the roots.

Because its over-priced. It has nothing to do with the product itself. It's why I use armor si' instead of power si'. I refuse to pay the premium that power si' costs and I feel for my own home grows, armor si' is sufficient in the cost vs benefit analysis.
Now youre talking about silicon. Silicon dioxide is way more expensive because potassium silicate creates salts.

If you were to say to me, "I'm an organic grower because for me it fits me as a person." I could completely respect that. To tell me that organic farming is superior? Well, that's your opinion and I don't agree. I don't think either method is superior to the other. I use what I use because it fits me. So please, let's stop all this nonsense. I'll never tell you to stop being an organic grower ... deal?
I never said its superior, but kelp and other ammendments bring things like aminoacids, vitamins and hormones that synthetic fertilizers cant. So yes, many times organic is better, unless youre looking only for dry weight.
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I'm looking to keep things on the "KISS" method. Dry weight rules usually ... especially if you can't tell the difference in side by side comparisons.

So no, I don't share your opinion about organics being superior. That's your opinion. I'm not trying to change your opinion so please stop trying to change mine.
 
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I'm looking to keep things on the "KISS" method. Dry weight rules usually ... especially if you can't tell the difference in side by side comparisons.

So no, I don't share your opinion about organics being superior. That's your opinion. I'm not trying to change your opinion so please stop trying to change mine.
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Im not trying to change your mind, sensi ph perfect comes with chelated minerals, calmag and NPK, its a pretty solid bio-mineral fertilizer that can beat some organic fertilizers like biobizz because theyre way too basic and you need to buy the entire supplement line to make it work as good.
 
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Im not trying to change your mind, sensi ph perfect comes with chelated minerals, calmag and NPK, its a pretty solid bio-mineral fertilizer that can beat some organic fertilizers like biobizz because theyre way too basic.
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Then use it if you like it. I'm happy with mine.
 
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