First Time Grower. Please help!!!

Thc4m3 · Nov 17, 2024

Hello everyone,
So I’m new here and a first time grower basically.. I bought Gelato 41 Bx feminized seeds and got 5 free Badazz Cookies OG feminized seeds as well. So I’m growing 2 of each strain and I planted them in fox farms happy frog soil. There under a HLG 100 rspec right now and I also have a spider farmer SF 1000 evo just in case I need more light. There in my closet that is 31”x25”x96” and I have a small fan and shitty humidifier as well. I’m also using the fox farm nute trio.

So my question is I just transplanted the bigger girls yesterday on day 20 for them which I realize was a little late but that’s the earliest I could do it. Anyways the Gelato 41 has been pretty droopy since the transplant. I don’t think I watered them enough after transplanting. What do you guys think? The front one is the Gelato 41 bx and the shorter bushier one is the Badazz Cookies OG.
These are the two littlier girls that got transplanted today on day 16. Gelato 41 is in front and Badazz Cookies OG is in the back.

Does anything look wrong? Do you think I need to water them more? There in 3 gallon fabric pots. Thanks you in advance for any and all help!!!

pbull79 · Nov 17, 2024

Just a little transplant shock. They should be just fine.

BB22 · Nov 17, 2024

I suggest plenty of indirect airflow and let them dry out . They look plenty wet.

Thc4m3 · Nov 17, 2024

pbull79 said:
Just a little transplant shock. They should be just fine.

Okay cool that’s what I was thinking but I wasn’t sure. They were pretty dry before I transplanted them because I was away from home for 3 days so they were both bone dry when I got back. I watered them til runoff in their solo cups and transplanted them 6+ hours later. That’s why I want sure if they still were thirsty or not. Thanks for the reply!!

Thc4m3 · Nov 17, 2024

BB22 said:
I suggest plenty of indirect airflow and let them dry out . They look plenty wet.

Okay sounds good! The gelato plant also looks kinda crispy and is tacoing its leaves a little. What do you think that might be from? I did have the fan kind of directly on it…

pbull79 · Nov 17, 2024

Thc4m3 said:
Okay cool that’s what I was thinking but I wasn’t sure. They were pretty dry before I transplanted them because I was away from home for 3 days so they were both bone dry when I got back. I watered them til runoff in their solo cups and transplanted them 6+ hours later. That’s why I want sure if they still were thirsty or not. Thanks for the

Thc4m3 said:
Okay sounds good! The gelato plant also looks kinda crispy and is tacoing its leaves a little. What do you think that might be from? I did have the fan kind of directly on it…

Are the top leaves tacoing or all of them? What i have noticed with my girls is when my tents are too hot or my light intensity is too high they will do this. If your mid to lower leaves are doing it then it could be, i hate saying this lol, a mag deficiency.

BB22 · Nov 17, 2024

Thc4m3 said:
Okay sounds good! The gelato plant also looks kinda crispy and is tacoing its leaves a little. What do you think that might be from? I did have the fan kind of directly on it…

My .02 your plants look good. I say let them recover from transplant and grow some roots.

Thc4m3 · Nov 17, 2024

pbull79 said:
Are the top leaves tacoing or all of them? What i have noticed with my girls is when my tents are too hot or my light intensity is too high they will do this. If your mid to lower leaves are doing it then it could be, i hate saying this lol, a mag deficiency.

This is a horrible pic but it’s mostly just the big middle two on the second node. I think they seems too be less taco’d now cuz I feel like before I gave them more water today and yesterday all the mid to new growth was tacoing and now just a a couple leaves.

pbull79 · Nov 17, 2024

Thc4m3 said:
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This is a horrible pic but it’s mostly just the big middle two on the second node. I think they seems too be less taco’d now cuz I feel like before I gave them more water today and yesterday all the mid to new growth was tacoing and now just a a couple leaves.

I think they will be fine. They just need some time to recover

BB22 · Nov 17, 2024

What’s your Power setting on your light and the distance from the plants?

Thc4m3 · Nov 17, 2024

BB22 said:
What’s your Power setting on your light and the distance from the plants?

Okay so that’s what I’m struggling with… So I’m using my HLG 100 rspec and it has a dimmer but it doesn’t tell you any percentages or anything you just have to eyeball it. They were at around 18” above the tallest plant with a DLI of 30. I raised them to 20” and the DLI is around 20 on average.

Thc4m3 · Nov 17, 2024

BB22 said:
What’s your Power setting on your light and the distance from the plants?

Also which light do you think is better? HLG 100 rspec or the Spider farmer SF 1000 301h evo? I recently bought that one cough (on Xanax)….

BB22 · Nov 17, 2024

Thc4m3 said:
Okay so that’s what I’m struggling with… So I’m using my HLG 100 rspec and it has a dimmer but it doesn’t tell you any percentages or anything you just have to eyeball it. They were at around 18” above the tallest plant with a DLI of 30. I raised them to 20” and the DLI is around 20 on average.

I don’t use DLI, don’t know how to guage that.
I would aim for about 25-30% power about 30” from the plants and checkout how the plants respond.

Both those lights appear to be capable. Later in veg/flower you may consider running both

Thc4m3 · Nov 17, 2024

BB22 said:
I don’t use DLI, don’t know how to guage that.
I would aim for about 25-30% power about 30” from the plants and checkout how the plants respond.

Both those lights appear to be capable. Later in veg/flower you may consider running both

Okay I’ll switch to the sf1000 cuz it has a dimmer that actually has markings and percentages. I read that the sf 1000 evo actually has 218 LM301H leds and the hlg only has 172 LM301H but it also has 4 LM351H which are deep red I guess. So you’d think more is better but idk

Week4Bytch · Nov 17, 2024

Thc4m3 said:
Okay I’ll switch to the sf1000 cuz it has a dimmer that actually has markings and percentages. I read that the sf 1000 evo actually has 218 LM301H leds and the hlg only has 172 LM301H but it also has 4 LM351H which are deep red I guess. So you’d think more is better but idk

More is better during flower...not on a fresh transplant. They will recover.

BB22 · Nov 17, 2024

Thc4m3 said:
Okay I’ll switch to the sf1000 cuz it has a dimmer that actually has markings and percentages. I read that the sf 1000 evo actually has 218 LM301H leds and the hlg only has 172 LM301H but it also has 4 LM351H which are deep red I guess. So you’d think more is better but idk

All the diode numbers and letters and how everything changes from this month to next

I do measure Ppfd . I use this tool and aim for these numbers.
0-250 seedlings
250-750 veg
Up to 1000 is best is I can do in my environment without getting too hot.

Learned most of this from Capt

Week4Bytch · Nov 17, 2024

BB22 said:
All the diode numbers and letters and how everything changes from this month to next

I do measure Ppfd . I use this tool and aim for these numbers.
0-250 seedlings
250-750 veg
Up to 1000 is best is I can do in my environment without getting too hot.

Learned most of this from Capt

I was gonna say something...but Capt might be on to something there, I'll have to get one of those and compare it to my apogee.

BB22 · Nov 17, 2024

Week4Bytch said:
I was gonna say something...but Capt might be on to something there, I'll have to get one of those and compare it to my apogee.

I’m learning and all ears .

T_Dub · Nov 17, 2024

Thc4m3 said:
Okay so that’s what I’m struggling with… So I’m using my HLG 100 rspec and it has a dimmer but it doesn’t tell you any percentages or anything you just have to eyeball it. They were at around 18” above the tallest plant with a DLI of 30. I raised them to 20” and the DLI is around 20 on average.

I use these Photone charts as my lighting guide and then observe the leaves to make sure I’m not pushing too hard.

Thc4m3 · Nov 17, 2024

T_Dub said:
I use these Photone charts as my lighting guide and then observe the leaves to make sure I’m not pushing too hard.
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Yeah I’ve seen that DLI chart and I was shooting for that but I thought the light was too bright because of the crispyness and tacoing. However I think it might have been because of direct airflow from the fan.

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