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Just looking for any critics or helpful advice from here on out on what could be done to increase yields.
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First time grower ( Week 4 Flower)

by jasecase420 · Started May 7, 2023
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Just looking for any critics or helpful advice from here on out on what could be done to increase yields.
 
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Tell us about your grow.
The strain or strains your running ... Your lighting, your nutrients and your feed schedule. Also your day and night time temps and humidity readings. To give you the best answer we need a lot of details.
 
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MIGrampaUSA said:
Tell us about your grow.
The strain or strains your running ... Your lighting, your nutrients and your feed schedule. Also your day and night time temps and humidity readings. To give you the best answer we need a lot of details.
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Hi ty for your intrest! So here's my problem-s it actually grew much better than I expected lol. Beans were bag seed just given to me by a friend who claimed they had come from some pretty decent buds he'd smoked recently (No idea Strain). Growroom is locted in townhouses Central HVAC mechanical closet under the stairs in basement
(ICovered walls with foil) basically my Temps are stuck around 68/75 Fahrenheit with Rh 50%-55%. Being homes Temps set for 68 anytime the unit cuts on, my entire atmosphere changes over. You can see in pics behind plant a black square looking thing, carbon infused scrubb pad over air intake of unit. Further moving on to my lights, it's actually pretty laughable (See New Pic). Mentioned before this grow really was started as experimental, but with such great plant structure, growth, vigor, just everything overall now I'd have too see how much possible yield we could get. Also if by looking at pics if anyone out there could possibly help identify it's cultivar.
 
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Hi ty for your intrest! So here's my problem-s it actually grew much better than I expected lol. Beans were bag seed just given to me by a friend who claimed they had come from some pretty decent buds he'd smoked recently (No idea Strain). Growroom is locted in townhouses Central HVAC mechanical closet under the stairs in basement
(ICovered walls with foil) basically my Temps are stuck around 68/75 Fahrenheit with Rh 50%-55%. Being homes Temps set for 68 anytime the unit cuts on, my entire atmosphere changes over. You can see in pics behind plant a black square looking thing, carbon infused scrubb pad over air intake of unit. Further moving on to my lights, it's actually pretty laughable (See New Pic). Mentioned before this grow really was started as experimental, but with such great plant structure, growth, vigor, just everything overall now I'd have too see how much possible yield we could get. Also if by looking at pics if anyone out there could possibly help identify it's cultivar. View attachment 1977743
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It would be near impossible to guess the cultivar by pictures only. What are you feeding it and what is your feed routine.

As for a tip that might help you improve your yield? Upgrade your lighting. I would look to fit the lights to the space. If its long and narrow like it appears to be, something along the lines of a pair of 240w bar lights with dimmers would work well.
 
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As long as your essentials are right
Food,air & water your getting it right.

One thing with the light on it’s not 68f is it that’s to cold for daytime temps try keep it at 75-80f during lights off 68f is fine

The foil won’t reflect much it looks like it’s possible to paint with a flat white paint ( not gloss ) witch would be much better.

I can’t figure exactly how many lights you have going but it looks like a expensive way to grow with the prices of electricity, that plus one good light will increase your yeild more than anything else.

I’ve no idea what nutes your using however in that respect they look good.

This is just for information and not a reflection of the pics I see.
I have no idea when you did the defoliation however it’s best to wait till they stop stretching before doing so and don’t do it all at once it’s very stressful for the plant so take only 10% off at a time. You won’t always get more back sometimes you’ll get less & sometimes it’s not really required. It’s really only required when your growing bushy indicas.

The same really for topping some strains are better left alone. Topping started out because of lanky sativas being to tall.

I’ll be real honest instead of dancing around the sides not wanting to make you feel bad it doesn’t help.

You took to much off and they stretched to much due to lack of light however it’s a learning process and I bet everyone here has learnt as they went along.

Good luck and enjoy the adventure
 
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MIGrampaUSA said:
It would be near impossible to guess the cultivar by pictures only. What are you feeding it and what is your feed routine.

As for a tip that might help you improve your yield? Upgrade your lighting. I would look to fit the lights to the space. If its long and narrow like it appears to be, something along the lines of a pair of 240w bar lights with dimmers would work well.
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No I completely agree that light bar is a different type bulb x8 and not 1 over a 100watts lol. Funds are limited so GH FloraTrio x3part nutrient feeding schedule as follows
Veg 200 ppm Week 1-2
Veg 300 ppm Week 2-3 so on and so on till we hit around 600ppm. Which stayed all through Veg time about x2 months. Raised again too 800 ppm once light switched to a 12/12 light cycle. Noticed if I tried to bring any higher my leaf tips on new growth looked burned so I backed off seems great right at 800ppm. Weird I think to be in flower.
 
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Nice crop of trichomes in some of those pics. But I’m surprised to see the lack of bud development at 4 wks, plus what seems like too many mature, darkened pistils for buds this size.

Do you think you were too heavy handed when clipping fan leaves? They are the plants’ growth engines, and there are high levels of photosynthesis that they support.

I agree with @MIGrampaUSA that better lighting would help in the next grow.
 
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As long as your essentials are right
Food,air & water your getting it right.

The foil won’t reflect much it looks like it’s possible to paint with a flat white paint ( not gloss ) witch would be much better.

I can’t figure exactly how many lights you have going but it looks like a expensive way to grow with the prices of electricity, that plus one good light will increase your yeild more than anything else.

I’ve no idea what nutes your using however in that respect they look good.

This is just for information and not a reflection of the pics I see.
I have no idea when you did the defoliation however it’s best to wait till they stop stretching before doing so and don’t do it all at once it’s very stressful for the plant so take only 10% off at a time. You won’t always get more back sometimes you’ll get less & sometimes it’s not really required. It’s really only required when your growing bushy indicas.

The same really for topping some strains are better left alone. Topping started out because of lanky sativas being to tall.

I’ll be real honest instead of dancing around the sides not wanting to make you feel bad it doesn’t help.

You took to much off and they stretched to much due to lack of light however it’s a learning process and I bet everyone here has learnt as they went along.

Good luck and enjoy the adventure
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Ty just what I want constructive criticism (Not you suck they stretched so on!) let me know what I did wrong so next one is better. Again ty for advice lights, lights, idk I defoliate daily like 2-5 leaves just depends.
 
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Ty just what I want constructive criticism (Not you suck they stretched so on!) let me know what I did wrong so next one is better. Again ty for advice lights, lights, idk I defoliate daily like 2-5 leaves just depends.
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I personally would try to leave more green on the tree during defoliation ... However your lighting is your biggest limitation at this point from what I see. Lots of people use GH Flora series with good results.
 
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Gmix said:
As long as your essentials are right
Food,air & water your getting it right.

One thing with the light on it’s not 68f is it that’s to cold for daytime temps try keep it at 75-80f during lights off 68f is fine

The foil won’t reflect much it looks like it’s possible to paint with a flat white paint ( not gloss ) witch would be much better.

I can’t figure exactly how many lights you have going but it looks like a expensive way to grow with the prices of electricity, that plus one good light will increase your yeild more than anything else.

I’ve no idea what nutes your using however in that respect they look good.

This is just for information and not a reflection of the pics I see.
I have no idea when you did the defoliation however it’s best to wait till they stop stretching before doing so and don’t do it all at once it’s very stressful for the plant so take only 10% off at a time. You won’t always get more back sometimes you’ll get less & sometimes it’s not really required. It’s really only required when your growing bushy indicas.

The same really for topping some strains are better left alone. Topping started out because of lanky sativas being to tall.

I’ll be real honest instead of dancing around the sides not wanting to make you feel bad it doesn’t help.

You took to much off and they stretched to much due to lack of light however it’s a learning process and I bet everyone here has learnt as they went along.

Good luck and enjoy the adventure
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Ty, I agree topping was the experiment here, she had 23 tops before I defoliated to include cutting some of the lower tops almost half off due to slender stems which wouldn't be able to hold much weight or even feed nutrients through. Plant is only 18" high except for one cola at 21" seems short compared to most I've seen (Not Much). The early discoloration of the hairs on the top colas was due to being stuck away and them growing into bottom of led light fixture.
 
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I personally would try to leave more green on the tree during defoliation ... However your lighting is your biggest limitation at this point from what I see. Lots of people use GH Flora series with good results.
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Just what I was thinking your light is your limiting factor. Try save up and get a good led.
 
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Hey OP, do you have the Photone app on a phone, or access to someone else’s? I’m curious what your canopy PPFD and DLI readings are (lighting measurements).
 
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Hey OP, do you have the Photone app on a phone, or access to someone else’s? I’m curious what your canopy PPFD and DLI readings are (lighting measurements).
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I do however due to our lighting being a lil CFL, LED, @Halogen, one other kind idk of fluorescent kinda hard for me to use such devices and get accurate readings. Lol Personally I Call It My Frakenstien Grow, yet the cultivar is the hardiest plant ive ever seen. She's only been growing since Feb 2 and was able to be topped multiple times.
 
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I do however due to our lighting being a lil CFL, LED, @Halogen, one other kind idk of fluorescent kinda hard for me to use such devices and get accurate readings. Lol Personally I Call It My Frakenstien Grow, yet the cultivar is the hardiest plant ive ever seen. She's only been growing since Feb 2 and was able to be topped multiple times.
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Hmm, yeah, forgot about that.
 
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