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I don't have rooting jell so im just using water, advice is needed
 
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Try rolling the stem in cinnamon, it's not a rooting hormone, but it does keep bacteria/fungus at bay. It is also said that Aloe Vera gel works, but the science is sketchy.
 
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Get rooting gel. It’s about $10
 
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Haven’t tried it yet. I’ve heard honey is helpful.

I’d suggest making sure tools are clean.

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Edit I think changing the water frequently is advised
 
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Strip a node of it's leaves and make sure that part is underwater, but as close to the surface as you can get it with an inch of stem beneath. The very bottom of the stem should be cut at a 45° angle. It's a good idea to use the node you trimmed as a "water fill line" because it will take at least 2 weeks and you will have to change the water every few days.

If there's no nodes, take a very sharp knife or razor blade and peel a very thin strip of stem on opposite sides below the waterline. The exposure of cells below the very outside layer will also increase your chances.

Keep the light really low and away from fans. Like in the shade under your other plants where the humidity will be higher too.

And don't leave them with too much leaf material to support. They need very little leaf material to survive at that point and any extra just drags them down. Any fan leaves that are not attached very close to the main stem should go. A thin 1" long stem will struggle to support a big fan leaf once you remove the root system.
 
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Strip a node of it's leaves and make sure that part is underwater, but as close to the surface as you can get it with an inch of stem beneath. The very bottom of the stem should be cut at a 45° angle. It's a good idea to use the node you trimmed as a "water fill line" because it will take at least 2 weeks and you will have to change the water every few days.

If there's no nodes, take a very sharp knife or razor blade and peel a very thin strip of stem on opposite sides below the waterline. The exposure of cells below the very outside layer will also increase your chances.

Keep the light really low and away from fans. Like in the shade under your other plants where the humidity will be higher too.

And don't leave them with too much leaf material to support. They need very little leaf material to survive at that point and any extra just drags them down. Any fan leaves that are not attached very close to the main stem should go. A thin 1" long stem will struggle to support a big fan leaf once you remove the root system.
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I agree with all except your last paragraph. I've always been taught that leaves left on actually feed the plant while it's trying to root. That's why in most cases the leaves turn yellow while rooting (cannibalism). I've always just cut the bigger leafs in 1/2 to stimulate a survival response that produces the same hormones needed for root development. Cutting the leaves also makes it easier to see new growth when it starts, which is the 1st indication of new roots when cloning blind (in plug, rockwool cube, soil or whatever, when the stem is buried and can't be seen) I may be wrong but I've always had right at, or very near 100% cloning success rate.
 
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I agree with all except your last paragraph. I've always been taught that leaves left on actually feed the plant while it's trying to root. That's why in most cases the leaves turn yellow while rooting (cannibalism). I've always just cut the bigger leafs in 1/2 to stimulate a survival response that produces the same hormones needed for root development. Cutting the leaves also makes it easier to see new growth when it starts, which is the 1st indication of new roots when cloning blind (in plug, rockwool cube, soil or whatever, when the stem is buried and can't be seen) I may be wrong but I've always had right at, or very near 100% cloning success rate.
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yea I agree from what I've been reading is clones need leafs but it's good to cut em in half
 
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yea I agree from what I've been reading is clones need leafs but it's good to cut em in half
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The way I understand it, chopping the leafs focusses growth in the roots vs leafs.
 
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I agree with all except your last paragraph. I've always been taught that leaves left on actually feed the plant while it's trying to root. That's why in most cases the leaves turn yellow while rooting (cannibalism). I've always just cut the bigger leafs in 1/2 to stimulate a survival response that produces the same hormones needed for root development. Cutting the leaves also makes it easier to see new growth when it starts, which is the 1st indication of new roots when cloning blind (in plug, rockwool cube, soil or whatever, when the stem is buried and can't be seen) I may be wrong but I've always had right at, or very near 100% cloning success rate.
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It’s a balancing act, the leaves do provide energy to the plant and newly forming roots, but at the same time, without developed roots the leaves can’t get enough water to function properly, so the middle ground is to cut a third or half off each leaf off.
 
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FloridaMike said:
I agree with all except your last paragraph. I've always been taught that leaves left on actually feed the plant while it's trying to root. That's why in most cases the leaves turn yellow while rooting (cannibalism). I've always just cut the bigger leafs in 1/2 to stimulate a survival response that produces the same hormones needed for root development. Cutting the leaves also makes it easier to see new growth when it starts, which is the 1st indication of new roots when cloning blind (in plug, rockwool cube, soil or whatever, when the stem is buried and can't be seen) I may be wrong but I've always had right at, or very near 100% cloning success rate.
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FloridaMike said:
I agree with all except your last paragraph. I've always been taught that leaves left on actually feed the plant while it's trying to root. That's why in most cases the leaves turn yellow while rooting (cannibalism). I've always just cut the bigger leafs in 1/2 to stimulate a survival response that produces the same hormones needed for root development. Cutting the leaves also makes it easier to see new growth when it starts, which is the 1st indication of new roots when cloning blind (in plug, rockwool cube, soil or whatever, when the stem is buried and can't be seen) I may be wrong but I've always had right at, or very near 100% cloning success rate.
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I've never cloned so what do you mean by cutting the leaves in half. Do you mean cut it right down the middle or cross ways?
 
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I've never cloned so what do you mean by cutting the leaves in half. Do you mean cut it right down the middle or cross ways?
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Cross ways
 
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Cross ways
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On the other hand, I've seen people who do like 2 or 3 inch long clones with pretty much just the growing top, with perfect success. It just puts you behind a little and you'll need more veg time than you would with an 8-14" clone with it's leaves left on. Just my .02
 
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Like chopping your fingers off at the middle knuckles
 
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Like chopping your fingers off at the middle knuckles
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Got it, preciate it.
 
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On the other hand, I've seen people who do like 2 or 3 inch long clones with pretty much just the growing top, with perfect success. It just puts you behind a little and you'll need more veg time than you would with an 8-14" clone with it's leaves left on. Just my .02
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I didn't wanna take a lot of my yeild away so I just took away branches that was like 5 or 6 inches tall
 
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Hey OP, not hi-jacking your thread. Continuing the discussion

Asking experienced growers. Too early to take clones from this lady ? Where would you cut ?

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Hey OP, not hi-jacking your thread. Continuing the discussion

Asking experienced growers. Too early to take clones from this lady ? Where would you cut ?

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With that tight of internode spacing I'd say too early (depending on your goals). If you are going to flower the clone, to early. Need to raise light &/or decrease power to get her to stretch before taking clones. If you are going to flower the mother with the clone being the backup in case momma turns out to be fire, then you could take a stubby little 'micro clone' now to accomplish that. I've never done it so I don't know what my success rate would be. In any case remember what (I think) @Thatoneguyyouknow_ said & take the top most main stem (apical meristem) if it's going to be a future mother. Just my .02
 
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Hey OP, not hi-jacking your thread. Continuing the discussion

Asking experienced growers. Too early to take clones from this lady ? Where would you cut ?

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your fine man I don't got no friends to talk to about this so I love an active thread, and yea I agree with him it looks a little early yet
 
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