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Sorry this is only my 2nd true grow, I've dabbled but never anything true until now. I've been reading though for years, many years and still learning.thats the fun of it.
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hey there str8, how are ya? I believe you are right. It might have to much nitrogen. I'M gonna let her dry out then put distilled water on her. hope that fixes her.
 
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hey there str8, how are ya? I believe you are right. It might have to much nitrogen. I'M gonna let her dry out then put distilled water on her. hope that fixes her.
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yo, this is my second plant but this one i'm serious about. if you have any good tips PLEASE by all means tell me. lol.
 
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hey there str8, how are ya? I believe you are right. It might have to much nitrogen. I'M gonna let her dry out then put distilled water on her. hope that fixes her.
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str8, I have to ask you if these nutes are ok, just got them, advanced nutes, jungle juice, grow, micro, bloom.
 
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Those should be fine. I would just use them at 1/4 strength of what they say until you see how they work for you.
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What's your temp and humidity in there? Can you take another pic in regular light?
You might want to check the infirmary,since you can see the problems better,they can help better then me. I wish I could answer it and be certain.
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Those should be fine. I would just use them at 1/4 strength of what they say until you see how they work for you.
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sweet! thanks a bunch..
 
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What's your temp and humidity in there? Can you take another pic in regular light?
You might want to check the infirmary,since you can see the problems better,they can help better then me. I wish I could answer it and be certain.
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the temp is 82 and hum. 65
 
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Those should be good,some will say high temp but that's what mine runs inside also.
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here is one without the light.
 

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Yeah your temps and humidity look good. She's showing signs of nitrogen toxicity though. Your pH might be a bit low for soil, you want to be watering in at 6.5 pH. Seamaiden has a thread in her signature that has charts showing the optimum pH range for various nutes. I recommend saving it or printing it out and hanging it somewhere until you're familiar with the swing that offers optimum uptake. I don't do organics and know from what I've read most who do don't pH their water before watering in. Kind of goes against the whole idea to pH an organic solution considering most pH buffers are chemically derived.

Either way, there's either a lockout going on or you have a toxicity issue. Not terrible but definitely something to address for sake of overall yield.

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Yeah your temps and humidity look good. She's showing signs of nitrogen toxicity though. Your pH might be a bit low for soil, you want to be watering in at 6.5 pH. Seamaiden has a thread in her signature that has charts showing the optimum pH range for various nutes. I recommend saving it or printing it out and hanging it somewhere until you're familiar with the swing that offers optimum uptake. I don't do organics and know from what I've read most who do don't pH their water before watering in. Kind of goes against the whole idea to pH an organic solution considering most pH buffers are chemically derived.

Either way, there's either a lockout going on or you have a toxicity issue. Not terrible but definitely something to address for sake of overall yield.

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hello there, the pH. of my reverse osmosis is 7.0. if that is to high what should I use to correct it.
 
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hello there, the pH. of my reverse osmosis is 7.0. if that is to high what should I use to correct it.
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its been 62 days growing already. thats about 8 weeks now.
 
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If you have some lemon juice around, it's stable enough. Powdered citric acid is an option too though not many just have it sitting around. Worst case scenario use vinegar. Vinegar is the worst though as I'm pretty sure it influences the prevalence of anaerobic bacteria which are not what we want.

Best option is some legitimate pH buffer solution. Sulfuric acid can be used as it's one of the most stable and readily available (can buy a bottle at any auto parts store for around $10).

But as I said a lot of organic growers don't even pH before watering in, just an unnecessary step as the nature of organics do not rely on pH for nutrient availability to the plants. All the wonderful micro-organisms provide the nutrients to the plant. Trying to regulate the pH messes with these guys iirc. Watering in at 7.0 is better than 5.5, that's for sure in soil.

I'm no organics expert but I do know the pH range in soil is not the same as in other hydro or soil-less type mediums. I also know that most organic growers don't bother with checking pH as the soil will regulate itself. Perhaps someone who focuses more on that side of the fence can chime in. I'm a coco grower that doesn't really like the idea of organics for indoor grows. Recovery takes time in soil, much longer than in hydro or soil-less mediums in most cases.

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If you have some lemon juice around, it's stable enough. Powdered citric acid is an option too though not many just have it sitting around. Worst case scenario use vinegar. Vinegar is the worst though as I'm pretty sure it influences the prevalence of anaerobic bacteria which are not what we want.

Best option is some legitimate pH buffer solution. Sulfuric acid can be used as it's one of the most stable and readily available (can buy a bottle at any auto parts store for around $10).

But as I said a lot of organic growers don't even pH before watering in, just an unnecessary step as the nature of organics do not rely on pH for nutrient availability to the plants. All the wonderful micro-organisms provide the nutrients to the plant. Trying to regulate the pH messes with these guys iirc. Watering in at 7.0 is better than 5.5, that's for sure in soil.

I'm no organics expert but I do know the pH range in soil is not the same as in other hydro or soil-less type mediums. I also know that most organic growers don't bother with checking pH as the soil will regulate itself. Perhaps someone who focuses more on that side of the fence can chime in. I'm a coco grower that doesn't really like the idea of organics for indoor grows. Recovery takes time in soil, much longer than in hydro or soil-less mediums in most cases.

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thanks so much for your time. you have been a great help.
 
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thanks so much for your time. you have been a great help.
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tobh, I have a question for ya, I let my plant dry out and then gave her a gallon of reverse osmosis pH 7.0 and watched the overflow on the bottom and it filled. about an 1 hr. later she drank all that. Am I underwatering the plant.
 
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Here are a couple of pic's. She's about 9 weeks now.
 

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Here are a couple of pic's. She's about 9 weeks now.
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Another couple of pic's. its been about 9 weeks now on the autoflower. Let me know what you think.
 

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Depends how you're watering. If you're just doing a single flood, then yes you're underwatering. You want to do an initial watering then do a second watering around 15 minutes later. This way ensures you're fully saturating the medium which is vital to root health. Soil is nonabsorbant when excessively dry. Doing an initial watering enable the medium to reabsorb water again more effectively. Dry spots in soil result in dead root spots and this can make your plants sick.

What you witnessed was the soil wicking up the runoff and saturating itself. Some use this method as it is called bottom feeding and highly effective in soil-less mediums where you don't have concern of overwatering. In soil you have to be extremely careful doing it this way. When it comes to the runoff typically you want to dump that as soon as the pot stops draining. It contains salts and excess nutrients that you don't want reabsorbed into the medium in most cases.

They're coming along nicely, should start bulking up here soon for ya.

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tobh said:
Depends how you're watering. If you're just doing a single flood, then yes you're underwatering. You want to do an initial watering then do a second watering around 15 minutes later. This way ensures you're fully saturating the medium which is vital to root health. Soil is nonabsorbant when excessively dry. Doing an initial watering enable the medium to reabsorb water again more effectively. Dry spots in soil result in dead root spots and this can make your plants sick.

What you witnessed was the soil wicking up the runoff and saturating itself. Some use this method as it is called bottom feeding and highly effective in soil-less mediums where you don't have concern of overwatering. In soil you have to be extremely careful doing it this way. When it comes to the runoff typically you want to dump that as soon as the pot stops draining. It contains salts and excess nutrients that you don't want reabsorbed into the medium in most cases.

They're coming along nicely, should start bulking up here soon for ya.

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tobh, thanks so much for the advice!!!
 
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