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G gnome · Jan 5, 2016

tattoojim said:
was they seeded bad the first run with m

These ones in wk 8 that i been snappin pix of are the first ones. The 2nd run is in wk1. So, i guess ill just haveta see.
I also got a cpl clones flowerin of some shit @stonestacker gave me mixed in w the row thats in week 1. If i were a bettin man id say that the same phenos that hermed on me the first time r gonna herm again., regardless of whether i leave the light on by accident or not i have the utmost confidence that the underdog and delehaze i got from stone wont herm but all the other shit that did the first time will again.
Under normal circumstances i wud never rerun anything that hermed but bcuz these are testers and i DID leave that light on i feel obliged to give em a second chance b4 i drag the breeders name thru the mud.

G gnome · Jan 5, 2016

Papa Indica said:
I was just reading some shit yesterday that was claiming that when plants are throwing nanna's that late they are usually not fertile and will not hurt anything but, I have no experience with it myself so, fucked if I know!

Well, problem is they been puttin out naaners since wk 3 and i can already see seeds in the shit so regardless of whether or not the current nanners are fertile or not some of them def were. FUCK!!!

Ecompost · Jan 5, 2016

Papa Indica said:
I was just reading some shit yesterday that was claiming that when plants are throwing nanna's that late they are usually not fertile and will not hurt anything but, I have no experience with it myself so, fucked if I know!

you have an over production of GA mate by the sounds of it. You need to reduce stress or gibberellic acid production. as little as 10-200ppms is enough for males to show

Papa Indica · Jan 5, 2016

G gnome said:
Well, problem is they been puttin out naaners since wk 3 and i can already see seeds in the shit so regardless of whether or not the current nanners are fertile or not some of them def were. FUCK!!!

Yeah, that fucking sucks.

Papa Indica · Jan 5, 2016

Ecompost said:
you have an over production of GA mate by the sounds of it. You need to reduce stress or gibberellic acid production. as little as 10-200ppms is enough for males to show

And what causes the ga production?

G gnome · Jan 5, 2016

I swear to god after i get done w that conglomerate tester run im fuckin done. No more basement breeder stock fer me. When i think back to all the stupid shit i used to do when i first started growing its amazing to me that w all the stess i caused i am just now havin herm probs.

G gnome · Jan 5, 2016

Ecompost said:
you have an over production of GA mate by the sounds of it. You need to reduce stress or gibberellic acid production. as little as 10-200ppms is enough for males to show

Was that post in reference to me? If so how do i reduce ga production?

Papa Indica · Jan 5, 2016

I had to go and read through the bullshit on that auto in a cup thread, what a fucking idiot that guy is, huh? WTF is wrong with that dude!?

tattoojim · Jan 5, 2016

G gnome said:
I swear to god after i get done w that conglomerate tester run im fuckin done. No more basement breeder stock fer me. When i think back to all the stupid shit i used to do when i first started growing its amazing to me that w all the stess i caused i am just now havin herm probs.

It's a carp shoot now days man. Believe it or not one of my most stable plants I had in the stable. Was a bagseed.. I'd kill to have that plant back. Punished it every which way you could and it never showed a sign

Papa Indica · Jan 5, 2016

G gnome said:
Was that post in reference to me? If so how do i reduce ga production?

Still waiting for that answer myself, more or less. I asked what causes it, guess we'll have to google it or some shit.

Ecompost · Jan 5, 2016

Papa Indica said:
And what causes the ga production?

usually environmental mate. They are stimulated by drops in temps where induction of flowering is related. However, higher rates will lead to more males than females, if you have had temp flux or light flux this may promote the increased production. Lowering light levels and failing N uptake, or the slowing of other proteins may also play a role. Plants that stretch lots during transition are naturally higher in GA, In plants grown in active biology, you might find VOCs such as Butanediol trigger the productions of growth hormones, when we grow without or under stress conditions we may find we get extra GH being released at an in appropriate time. GA is related to stress in bloom imo, over ferts, over water, not enough water, to cold, too hot, the list is endless but the key to mitigating risk will always lay in bacteria for me. its just too hard to know if I gave too much xyz fee this time round ...

G gnome · Jan 5, 2016

Papa Indica said:
Still waiting for that answer myself, more or less. I asked what causes it, guess we'll have to google it or some shit.

Id luv to hear what ya figure out

Papa Indica · Jan 5, 2016

Jammin' to some Led Zep this morning, got some new speakers to hook up to my laptop, they sound pretty damn good too.

G gnome · Jan 5, 2016

Ecompost said:
usually environmental mate. They are stimulated by drops in temps where induction of flowering is related. However, higher rates will lead to more males than females, if you have had temp flux or light flux this may promote the increased production. Lowering light levels and failing N uptake, or the slowing of other proteins may also play a role. Plants that stretch lots during transition are naturally higher in GA, In plants grown in active biology, you might find VOCs such as Butanediol trigger the productions of growth hormones, when we grow without or under stress conditions we may find we get extra GH being released at an in appropriate time. GA is related to stress in bloom imo, over ferts, over water, not enough water, to cold, too hot, the list is endless but the key to mitigating risk will always lay in bacteria for me. its just too hard to know if I gave too much xyz fee this time round ...

Thats the most puzzlin thin man. My conditions are not only stable but they are perfect. Im fully aware that stress of any kind raises the likelihood of herms , thing is there is no stress

Papa Indica · Jan 5, 2016

tattoojim said:
It's a carp shoot now days man. Believe it or not one of my most stable plants I had in the stable. Was a bagseed.. I'd kill to have that plant back. Punished it every which way you could and it never showed a sign

You shootin' fish in a barrel again? Damn carps. lmao

tattoojim · Jan 5, 2016

Papa Indica said:
You shootin' fish in a barrel again? Damn carps.

Lmao thanks fer pointing that out. You guys know I don't proof read most my stuff lol

G gnome · Jan 5, 2016

tattoojim · Jan 5, 2016

G gnome said:
Thats the most puzzlin thin man. My conditions are not only stable but they are perfect. Im fully aware that stress of any kind raises the likelihood of herms , thing is there is no stress

Other than leaving that one light on lol

Papa Indica · Jan 5, 2016

tattoojim said:
Lmao thanks fer pointing that out. You guys know I don't proof read most my stuff lol

No problem bro, I'm here to be a douche for you all. lol

mittenmedgrow · Jan 5, 2016

G gnome said:
Thats the most puzzlin thin man. My conditions are not only stable but they are perfect. Im fully aware that stress of any kind raises the likelihood of herms , thing is there is no stress

Maybe you should give up on growing and focus on going walleye fishing pro

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